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Hi/Low Pass with resonance

Post by mwerden » Wed May 25, 2022 12:33 pm

Do people still use McDSP? Fabfilter Volcano 3 looks pretty good, anyone like? Soundtoys is great but so many things to click and adjust. What should I be looking at, good tapeop people?
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Re: Hi/Low Pass with resonance

Post by The Scum » Wed May 25, 2022 12:55 pm

Resonant filters are more of a synth thing than a mixing tool, so that might guide your search.

The handful of HP/LP filters in "mixing-style" plugins with resonance (or Q) don't offer huge control over the resonance, the way the synth filters do, just a little sharper knee or a small bump at the edge of the pass band.

The Korg MS20 highpass filter is one of my favorites - available in many forms (original, Korg & behringer reissues, Frostwave Resonator, various plugins). It can soak up the low bass, but then accentuate the cutoff frequency nicely - you've heard it somewhere before.

The classic resonant lowpass is the Moog, in whatever hardware of software form. One thing to note with it is that as the resonance gets louder, the rest of the passband gets quieter - so the resonance sticks out, but doesn't exceed headroom...perhaps a trick for emulating it in software.
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Re: Hi/Low Pass with resonance

Post by mwerden » Wed May 25, 2022 1:58 pm

The Scum wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 12:55 pm
Resonant filters are more of a synth thing than a mixing tool
Well that's just crazy talk.
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Re: Hi/Low Pass with resonance

Post by Recycled_Brains » Wed May 25, 2022 2:45 pm

I've messed with this on the Pro-Q3. Sharp filter jacked up like 20db with the Q control, use the dynamic feature to keep it from getting out of hand. Has worked on a kick drum here and there.

I'm embarrassed that I've never fucked with the Soundtoys in this way. I just opened a session and tried some presents on bass and kick and :shock:

I thought that thing was just for making your shit sound like Bootsie.
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Re: Hi/Low Pass with resonance

Post by mwerden » Wed May 25, 2022 9:43 pm

I have the same sort of reaction to the Soundtoys thing. If I'm trying to do a hi/low pass thing I pretty much just want 2 knobs to turn.
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Re: Hi/Low Pass with resonance

Post by digitaldrummer » Thu May 26, 2022 6:44 am

I used to use Waves REQ-2 (renaissance EQ) a lot but eventually realized the HPF/LPF was producing a resonance that I didn't necessarily always want. So when I want it I'll use it, and when I don't I like the Sonimus SonEQ (free version)
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Re: Hi/Low Pass with resonance

Post by Recycled_Brains » Thu May 26, 2022 8:03 am

mwerden wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 9:43 pm
I have the same sort of reaction to the Soundtoys thing. If I'm trying to do a hi/low pass thing I pretty much just want 2 knobs to turn.
There are some presets that do most of the heavy lifting. "drum fattener" or whatever. I ended up only having to adjust the frequency/amount of resonance and the mix/output. But that Fabfilter thing seems really cool too. The addition of that distortion characteristic is nice. I might try the trick with the Pro-q and follow it with a Decapitator or the Tapehead or something like that.

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Re: Hi/Low Pass with resonance

Post by drumsound » Thu May 26, 2022 9:17 am

More complicated than 2 knobs, but the Arturia Filter Mini can do that stuff.
https://www.arturia.com/products/softwa ... r/overview

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Re: Hi/Low Pass with resonance

Post by kslight » Thu May 26, 2022 11:20 am

The Scum wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 12:55 pm
Resonant filters are more of a synth thing than a mixing tool, so that might guide your search.

The handful of HP/LP filters in "mixing-style" plugins with resonance (or Q) don't offer huge control over the resonance, the way the synth filters do, just a little sharper knee or a small bump at the edge of the pass band.

The Korg MS20 highpass filter is one of my favorites - available in many forms (original, Korg & behringer reissues, Frostwave Resonator, various plugins). It can soak up the low bass, but then accentuate the cutoff frequency nicely - you've heard it somewhere before.

The classic resonant lowpass is the Moog, in whatever hardware of software form. One thing to note with it is that as the resonance gets louder, the rest of the passband gets quieter - so the resonance sticks out, but doesn't exceed headroom...perhaps a trick for emulating it in software.

The resonant high pass on the behringer k2 is amazing, never owned a real ms20 to compare to. Never heard a plug-in filter that really did it for me in higher resonance settings.

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Re: Hi/Low Pass with resonance

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Re: Hi/Low Pass with resonance

Post by Nick Sevilla » Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:18 am

drumsound wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 9:17 am
More complicated that 2 knobs, but the Arturia Filter Mini can do that stuff.
https://www.arturia.com/products/softwa ... filtermini
Fixed the link:

https://www.arturia.com/products/softwa ... r/overview
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Re: Hi/Low Pass with resonance

Post by drumsound » Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:28 am

Nick Sevilla wrote:
Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:18 am
drumsound wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 9:17 am
More complicated that 2 knobs, but the Arturia Filter Mini can do that stuff.
https://www.arturia.com/products/softwa ... filtermini
Fixed the link:

https://www.arturia.com/products/softwa ... r/overview
Thanks!!! I wonder what I did wrong.

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Re: Hi/Low Pass with resonance

Post by Recycled_Brains » Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:41 am

IDK how I forgot about the Lo-Rider feature on the LTL Chop Shop plugin. It def does the thing.

https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/prod ... op_eq.html
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