Shiny Box ribbon mic, $150 cheap!

caz · Post by **caz** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:25 am

My dear, almost forgotten TapeOppers,

Has anyone experienced the Shiny Box model #46 Ribbon Mic? They are so inexpensive---do they sound cheap as well??

http://www.shinybox.com/product_info.ph ... ucts_id=51

Thanks,
{csmr}

pandatone · Post by **pandatone** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:54 am

i have a SB 23.. and i hands down love it. i use it all the time. it does have a pretty low output.. so it needs alot of clean gain. it records things the way they sound. or you can use the back side of the mic and get a more narrow but cool sound.

i love it on female vox's.. smooth's them right out.

panda

ulriggribbons · Post by **ulriggribbons** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:20 pm

Hey there,

Here's a review of the 46 at the gearslutz board:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showthre ... 800&page=2

Hope it helps

ju

nacho459 · Post by **nacho459** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:38 pm

Aren't those all the same things like we ordered from PPA, I thought those and the Nady mics etc are all just the same mic in slightly different packaging.

inverseroom · Post by **inverseroom** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:43 pm

They look pretty much identical...

Evergreen · Post by **Evergreen** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:05 pm

nacho459 wrote:Aren't those all the same things like we ordered from PPA, I thought those and the Nady mics etc are all just the same mic in slightly different packaging.

I thought they were the same mics but the guy changes the transformer????? i could be wrong.

Tim

ulriggribbons · Post by **ulriggribbons** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:55 pm

definitely not the same mic. Completely different output transformer, much smaller body.

Are they related, yes. Do they sound the same? No =)

Why would I want to sell two things that sound the same?

Regards

ju

chris harris · Post by **chris harris** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:10 pm

fum wrote:Why would I want to sell two things that sound the same?

Regards

ju

uh... is this a trick question?

mfdu · Post by **mfdu** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:24 pm

well Fum got my #46 all the way to me in Australia without a problem.

build quality seems great, and i have not yet removed the inner pop screen like a lot of other folks seem to.

used as a drum overhead, spoken word for broadcast, air above hand percussion, disant mic on a marshall quad box, and room mic for a small close-mic'd string section.
i even used it to mic up a digital piano (weird yes i know, but i got great thump and clatter out of the keys and pedals - combined that with the midi triggering a well sampled grand it gave an awsome vibe)

maybe i will remove the inner screen, but it has not leapt out at me yet. i definately plan on getting another 46. nice and easy to position, too.

chris.

cashed checks · Post by **cashed checks** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:59 pm

i've been meaning to pick one up but a lull in time for recording has kept me from it. I'm also kind of scared of the 'low gain' label that ribbon mics get. My main pres are Presonus digimax on which the maximum gain listed is the minimum recomended for the SB mics. electric guitars are no problem but what about trying to record vocals?

mfdu · Post by **mfdu** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:13 pm

hello mr. ass engineer. tee hee. you need to make more posts so you came get away from the smell of ass. ha ha ha.

oh i should grow up.

yes the mics are low output and require bags of clean gain. sometimes. depends on what you want, dont it?
i mean, on a vocal you may need more gain in order to move it away far enough to avoid proximity boost. but as a drum overhead, fergeddaboudit - you got all the gain you need.

i look into building a phantom-powered in-line pre-preamp. phew thats a mouthful.
it seemed a good idea, but hard to figure out how to make the gain clean enough. at least it would block phantom power from killing the mic through.
rode do the d-power and the d-power plug, but i trialled one and it was too noisy.

you may need a different preamp if you have so little gain. how do your present pre's cope with dynamics? if you have plenty for dynamics you should have *just* enough for a ribbon in premium circumstances.

chris.

JES · Post by **JES** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:27 pm

Okay, so the 46 sounds like the way to go for guitar recording. But which 46? I can't figure out the differences among them besides the transfomers. ANyone got any idea on the sonics?[/i]

mfdu · Post by **mfdu** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:59 pm

that's one mighty big price difference b/w the standard '46 and the 46L (lundahl transformer) and the 46C (cinemag trannie)

especially when you can swap out the trannies yourself.

mine is the bog-standard 46. the best thing about it is that it is a ribbon for about the same price as an SM57.

my idea? just do it. get the 46. you started the post saying "wow - $150 for a ribbon" - i dont know the alternative output trannies are going to give you the same bang-for-ur-buck as the regular 46.

but if price is no object, i would be guessing the cinemag tannie is crunchier than the lundahl - pick your flavour!

chris.

matta · Post by **matta** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:59 pm

46 gets my thumbs up.... but if you read the GS thread you would already
know that.

It is an amazing mic for the money. Stock it is a bit ?boomy? in comparison to
the AEA, but for the money it rocks.

I'll be doing the Cinemag swop out at some point, easier enough to do if you
can use and iron, takes all of 15 minutes, and I think the iron direct from
Cinemag is around $48.

Cheers

Matt

seedysea · Post by **seedysea** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:55 pm

I have been eyeing these off for some time now and want a ribbon for an upcoming project. (I haven't forgotton J)

What I am interested in finding out more about is the difference between the 46 and the 23.

What is the difference in freq response, proximity, output, subjective sound?

What are the physical differences? I like big stuff. You know, big mics, big, thick leads, 3RU pres and comps.

Has anyone compared the two?

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