Open Letter for Gear Manufacturers

Recording Techniques, People Skills, Gear, Recording Spaces, Computers, and DIY

Moderators: drumsound, tomb

TapeOpLarry
TapeOp Admin
TapeOp Admin
Posts: 1667
Joined: Thu May 01, 2003 11:50 am
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Open Letter for Gear Manufacturers

Post by TapeOpLarry » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:54 am

I've been formulating a list of complaints for gear manufacturers. These are just a few off the top of my head. Add to it if you wanna!

Why is the talkback button in the middle upper portion of the board?
Why is there no jack for a simple remote talkback button?
Why make channel strips without polarity switches (or ones that only work on mic inputs)?
Why rackmountable gear has IEC/power inputs on either right, left or middle? Pure hell when trying to isolate power and audio!
How come your shock mounts fall apart in a year?
Please put pad switches on your preamps!
How come your metering doesn't correspond to any of my other gear?
Could your DAW software please have scaled metering? Please?
If your mic pre has an output control please mark the UNITY setting for that!!!
No more 1/8" plugs with 1/4" adapters on headphone cables!
No more curly headphone cables!
No post fader metering on the mixer meter bridge? Why?
Hey, your mic body is milled so tight that some XLR cables won't fit inside!
Your pop screen clip doesn't fit half my stands and when it does the screen still won't stay in front of the mic.
Your mic stand boom ALWAYS sags downward no matter how much I tigten it.
Hey, the little plastic clips on your mic case break off after a few years of careful use.
Wall warts are a pain in the ass for many reasons.
Gigantic external power supplies with 4 foot cables suck too.


Okay, go for it.
Larry Crane, Editor/Founder Tape Op Magazine
please visit www.tapeop.com for contact information
(do not send private messages via this board!)
www.larry-crane.com

User avatar
jca83
carpal tunnel
Posts: 1689
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:58 pm
Location: Nashville, TN

Post by jca83 » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:13 am

why do i have to call your company and beg for another license when i use your plug-in on my desktop AND my laptop?

why do i have to use an iLok to use a DEMO of your software for 14 days?

why do i have to pay for software upgrades when i spent $500, $1000, or even several thousand on your software/hardware/etc in the first place?

why do you put your phantom power switches ON THE BACK OF THE RACKED UNIT!?!?
that devil bastard protools

Marlowe
gettin' sounds
Posts: 118
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 1:12 pm

Re: Open Letter for Gear Manufacturers

Post by Marlowe » Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:31 am

YES!

Also, make headphone cords that easily detach from the headphones so they can easily be replaced when they invariably die from being stepped on while being worn. BRRRZP! ...shit!
TapeOpLarry wrote:No more 1/8" plugs with 1/4" adapters on headphone cables!

Family Hoof
buyin' a studio
Posts: 877
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:30 pm
Location: NYC
Contact:

Post by Family Hoof » Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:53 am

To summarize, why aren't your designers also end users?

cgarges
zen recordist
Posts: 10890
Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2003 1:26 am
Location: Charlotte, NC
Contact:

Post by cgarges » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:18 am

jca83 wrote:why do you put your phantom power switches ON THE BACK OF THE RACKED UNIT!?!?
Why do you put ANY switches on the back of the racked unit: phantom, link, mic/line, on/off?

Why do you almost get a product so right that it completely kills everything else on the market that does the same thing, but then leave off one KEY point that makes it a total pain?

Why do you create your own terminology for functions that have existed for years on other pieces of equipment?

Will any of the points anyone's listed so far make a difference? (Larry's list is so spot-on it makes me want to cry.)

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

junkstar
re-cappin' neve
Posts: 655
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 1:16 pm
Location: new york
Contact:

Post by junkstar » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:28 am

Why aren't you educating your retailers / salespeople more? It's obvious the retail stores will not educate their own salespeople, so get in the game before retail store gear dealers go away completely! Sometimes we want to see it and touch it and talk about it before we buy it.


joel hamilton
zen recordist
Posts: 8876
Joined: Mon May 19, 2003 12:10 pm
Location: NYC/Brooklyn
Contact:

Post by joel hamilton » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:36 am

Posted: Wed 06.10.04, 8:00 am Post subject: An open letter to gear manufacturers from an end user.

An open letter to manufacturers....

This is a mission statement from a person who uses recording equipment every single day to make a living. I will speak for myself, and myself only because this is a public forum, and that has already garnered me a quote in an international magazine where I am supposedly speaking for "the tapeop forum" which is untrue.If you take offense to any of this, please email me directly, or call me on my cell phone number posted on my website below. This is a state of the union address to let these manufacturers know what we really want, and use. This will be worth more than the money these companies spend on market research, as it comes directly from the users! This is a chance to have all these companies hear what features/price point/ expectations, and so forth we have for the gear we use!

Dear manufacturers of stuff I use,

I dont need yet another re-branded chinese condenser. I need a single condenser that sounds really good on a variety of sources, and doesnt cost more than 1000 dollars new.

A special section for Digidesign...:,
Please make the filters built into your converter hardware tuneable by the end user! With My Studer A827, I can set each channel to do things my way, with PTHD3, I have factory defaults, or soft clip, or 2 buttons for output trims.... I would love to have the option to set my high and lowpass filters myself. Yes this enables people to make horrible noises with your equipment, just like any other piece of gear in the studio, but it also enables engineers to get a character they like from your proprietary hardware!!!! While we are at it.. Why not offer support for ASIO and other brands of conversion!>?!? Pro Tools is truly a professional platform, so why wont it talk to other hardware!? Pro tools should be willing and able to do anything a professional engineer asks it to do, without insanely shaky workarounds. Stability should be paramount!

Mic pre manufacturers:

Why do the larger manufacturers (the ones you see in the sweetwater catalog.. ya know?) almost always miss the boat!??? They add knobs, they add features... The sound quality stays about the same as an ART Tube MP, but there are 346 more buttons, lights, uselessly small VU's, and de-essers.... Why is the Sytek stuff so popular?? One knob (per channel) with phase, Phantom, and mute. AND THEY SOUND GOOD! Oh... right... it has to sound good! I thought the kids wanted a mic pre that would make them breakfast and shoot sparks at their pals! Why do certain companies feel the need to build on an already shaky mic pre? Start with a fairly suspect signal path and add 3 million features (miles of PCB) and charge way too much for it?

I would love to see a two channel mic pre that sounds GREAT, not GOOD, but GREAT, using good components and great pots and knobs, with nothing else. Just GREAT, clean, mic amplification. The challenge should be to make this happen for under 300 dollars a channel, not to see how many useless switches and bells and whistles can be crammed into a 4U behemoth.... Make the damn thing one rack space high as well!!! Unless it has tubes in it, chill out on the "retro giant knobs" shit... We dont all have 300 space racks, or space in the 300 space racks anyway...

Consoles under 5k???

Why not, in this world of Digi002's and home DAW systems, and even in project studios, and basements of the world, where people are collecting mic pre's for each instrument OUTBOARD mic pre's for everything... Why oh why is there not a simple, reliable, well built console for mixing. I dont even care about the pre's. Where is a kick ass EQ and fader? Period. With a kick ass mix buss. Maybe even a discrete mix bus, with hybrid channels, modular... Can this be done? I dare someone to make a 24 channel, 8 buss console made for great summing, and great EQ, with patch points other than "insert" and without a million little bells and whistles... I dont need 8 aux sends. I need 4, maybe. If the 4 aux KNOBS were really good and I could count on them for years to come I would choose that over a shittlly made, 128 by 64 by 4 by 2 console... whatever. I feel like this challenge could be met by a few of the current "project console" manufacturers. Are there enough of us that know what to listen for? is that the problem???

Please add to this list. People are listening. We have seen the results, as I mentioned at the top....
_________________

Coco
re-cappin' neve
Posts: 767
Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:13 pm
Location: Somewhere in Canada

Re: Open Letter for Gear Manufacturers

Post by Coco » Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:57 am

TapeOpLarry wrote:I've been formulating a list of complaints for gear manufacturers. These are just a few off the top of my head. Add to it if you wanna!

No more curly headphone cables!
Yeah Sennheiser! That one drives me crazy. No controls on the back of rack gear either! Put those phantom power and other controls on the front pleeeeez.
Last edited by Coco on Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
I know enough to know that I don't know what I am doing.

Generals and Majors http://www.myspace.com/generalsandmajors

kayagum
ghost haunting audio students
Posts: 3490
Joined: Wed May 07, 2003 11:11 pm
Location: Saint Paul, MN

Post by kayagum » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:17 am

Why do you send a first version for review, and THEN switch out for cheaper parts?

(Yes, we WILL find out...)

User avatar
joelpatterson
carpal tunnel
Posts: 1732
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:20 pm
Location: Albany, New York

Post by joelpatterson » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:49 am

Then, on the other hand, I do like it how you make stuff that I can slam to the ground, pitch out of my Jeep, topple over on a mic stand, send crashing to the floor and it still works, thanks alot, much apreesh.
Mountaintop Studios
~The Peak of Perfection~
Petersburgh NY 12138

mountaintop@taconic.net

User avatar
Leopold
buyin' a studio
Posts: 841
Joined: Wed May 07, 2003 8:51 am
Contact:

Post by Leopold » Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:27 am

Why can't you give me two good channels instead of 8 shitty channels or two channels with so much in the signal path it sounds like a tansistor radio by the time it's output.

Why can't you make a tube pre amp that actually uses the tube for more than just an orange light to let me know that I'm "supposed" to hear a "tubelike" sound...


E
"I raged against the machine and all this money came out!" Bart Simpson

junkstar
re-cappin' neve
Posts: 655
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 1:16 pm
Location: new york
Contact:

Post by junkstar » Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:42 am

Not sure how often this happens, but here is another I thought of...

When designing a two channel rack item, the left and right sections on the face panel should be identical L-R, not 'reversed' with a center-working-out design. Unbelievably frustrating when I move from my Aphex 107 (correctly L-R) to my ART TPS (moronically, center-out).

rydaken
pushin' record
Posts: 253
Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:47 pm
Location: Los Angeles

Post by rydaken » Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:48 am

I would love to see all gear labeled clearly on the back with it's maker and model. So that, when your digging behind a rack you don't have to keep getting up!

joel hamilton
zen recordist
Posts: 8876
Joined: Mon May 19, 2003 12:10 pm
Location: NYC/Brooklyn
Contact:

Post by joel hamilton » Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:26 am

Leopold wrote:Why can't you give me two good channels instead of 8 shitty channels or two channels with so much in the signal path it sounds like a tansistor radio by the time it's output.

Why can't you make a tube pre amp that actually uses the tube for more than just an orange light to let me know that I'm "supposed" to hear a "tubelike" sound...


E
EH 12Ay7 did this, then people plugged out of the 1/4" IC buffered circuit and said "its noisy, and not that cool."

That little box has a simple, elegant signal path. All tube. Real. Great, affordable.
Totally amazing. that is why I love the thing, it DOES give you a simple little package with GREAT tone, rather than 10 million sweepable de-esser impedance selectors... ;)

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 64 guests