Little Labs phase alignment tool?

Evergreen · Post by **Evergreen** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:32 am

Anyone have any real world experience using one of these? From the description I read about them they seem like they are a little box sent from heaven. I'm thinking they would be great for a acoustic guitar player/singer. I would like to put the mics where they sound best and not worry about the laws of physics.

If they work like they claim they do I'm going to get IBP jr. Any negative side effects from using this little box I should know about? It just seems to easy.

Tim

soundguy · Post by **soundguy** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:14 pm

its pretty much the little all pass filter sent from heaven.

they sound good too.

dave

Coco · Post by **Coco** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:34 pm

Pay the extra scratch and get the regular version, because for not that much more you get a DI, line splitter and reamp along with the phase adj. I ended up sending my jr. back and getting the regular IBP box.

E-cue · Post by **E-cue** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:50 pm

I'd also go for the regular version. Actually, I did and got two.

Here's an mp3 thread I posted at GS to give your ears an idea of what it does:
http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php3?t=24927

IME it works best to process the signal closest to the source (DI, or mic closer to the amp, etc).

Evergreen · Post by **Evergreen** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:51 pm

Coco wrote:Pay the extra scratch and get the regular version, because for not that much more you get a DI, line splitter and reamp along with the phase adj. I ended up sending my jr. back and getting the regular IBP box.

The regular version sounds like a good idea. i didn't know you could reamp with it. How's the DI?

Tim

Evergreen · Post by **Evergreen** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:53 pm

E-cue wrote:I'd also go for the regular version. Actually, I did and got two.

Here's an mp3 thread I posted at GS to give your ears an idea of what it does:
http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php3?t=24927

IME it works best to process the signal closest to the source (DI, or mic closer to the amp, etc).

Whoa, we posted at the same time. Thanks for the link.

Evergreen · Post by **Evergreen** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:10 pm

Wow, those samples on GS really show what it can do. E-cue thanks for making them. It really interesting how you can't hear it at all in stereo but in mono it's plain as day.

Tim

Post by **TapeOpLarry** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:55 pm

I used my two on a session 3 days ago for:
2 mics on snare
2 mics on 2 bass cabinets

wish I had more for:

2 mics on gtr cab

E-cue · Post by **E-cue** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:54 am

Evergreen wrote:The regular version sounds like a good idea. i didn't know you could reamp with it. How's the DI?

Tim

DI is pretty rocking. It's better than, say, a Countryman IMO. You really do get a lot of bang out of the Sr. unit. The more you get and the more you share power supplies (with y cables), the better the price looks.

When I'm doing distorted guitar, I sometimes find myself dialing it in 'wrong' slightly to give me more tone where I need it. The ? sounds less tight between the 2 sources, but can give me more dimension. The 1st time you use it, I suggest flipping the ?, swepping till it sounds thinest, then flipping the ? back to 'normal'. This seems to be the prefered way to get things tightest. Also, every now & then I find it's a hit or miss unit. Sometimes I'll hear something slightly out of phase and think "IBP to the rescue" and I just can't seem to get it to fix my problem not matter what setting I use. When I run into this stuff, time nudging usually helps.

Bill @ Irie Lab · Post by **Bill @ Irie Lab** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:26 am

Howdy,

For any DAW folks on the PC with issues of phase correcting tracks the PhaseBug VST plug is a cool tool. It allows fully varing phase +/- 180 degrees on any 2-channel .wav file.

Check it out (get it) at www.betabugsaudio.com. (Pssssst - and its free!)

Aloha and cheers,

Spark · Post by **Spark** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:39 pm

Bill @ Irie Lab wrote:Howdy,

For any DAW folks on the PC with issues of phase correcting tracks the PhaseBug VST plug is a cool tool. It allows fully varing phase +/- 180 degrees on any 2-channel .wav file.

Check it out (get it) at www.betabugsaudio.com. (Pssssst - and its free!)

Aloha and cheers,

Ive been using that in Tracktion and I wish I had it for Protools!

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