what is wrong with this!@

[bantam]

i tracked a hollow body through a fender amp with an LD condensor (PAD at -10) I had to turn my RNP almost all the way down to avoid clipping. i know that this is shit because the preamp isn't operating with enough voltage and the sound is thin. what did i miss here???

[Reuben]

How do you know the pre isn't sending correct voltage? Your problem is hard to diagnose with the info you posted, but my gut instinct would be that you're overloading the mic itself. The RNP has fairly good head room. But depending on how loud that Fender amp is being run, and which LDC you're using, you might want to bring the mic back a little farther from the speaker.\

Good luck!

[drumsound]

Did you swap out the cable? If you cable his a cold solder joint and is intermittent, the sound can be thin and crappy but still there. That goes for all the cable in the chain.

[bantam]

good ideas guys,

the mic was about 1.5 feet away, cables could have been an issue ill check. voltage comment was based on the fact that i thought pre amps need a certain level to be operating in their optimal range (if your signal is too hot you would have to turn preamp down too low which gets it out of its optimal range, hence the pad on a lot of pres)

mic c1 studio projects
pre RNP
amp fender tweed champ at 8 (15w) 12inch spker

[r0ck1r0ck2]

so you used the pad on the mic but not the pad on the pre?
how hot did you have the amp?
11?
15w is pretty loud
my 5w skylark is pretty damn loud in studio...

[Red Rockets Glare]

this happens sometimes to me when I have a mic that has an impedance mis-match to the pre. Do you have any other pres's to try the mic out with?

[bantam]

thanks guys,
i know what i have to do...experiment until i rule everything out one by one, i can't do that cause im at work so i had to tell someone!!!!
thanks


these takes were great so i may try to reamp them to add some life back into the tone but i hate to have to do that.

[drumsound]

these takes were great so i may try to reamp them to add some life back into the tone but i hate to have to do that.

Why would you hate that? You wouldn't mind adding an effect while mixing if it enhanced the mix would you? You probably don't mind using EQ or compression. Reamping is just another tool, if it adds to the production it's good, if it detracts it's bad.

My apologies to Joel for stealing his answer.

[bantam]

got ya , what i meant was that i was going for a well tracked gritty guitar sound and what i got was a preamp distorting in a way that didn't help. so i don't mind that i have to reamp but i doubt i will ever get it 'right' by fixing it during the mix.

its actually turining into something sompletely different but kinda cool.
thanks guys

[curtiswyant]

turn amp down, move mic away, use different mic

[drumsound]

got ya , what i meant was that i was going for a well tracked gritty guitar sound and what i got was a preamp distorting in a way that didn't help. so i don't mind that i have to reamp but i doubt i will ever get it 'right' by fixing it during the mix.

its actually turining into something sompletely different but kinda cool.
thanks guys

Sometimes that's the best strategy. Don't try to turn it into something it's not. Make what it is work for you.

[s00p3rm4n]

I'd try another mic. As an owner of the C-1, I can honestly say I find it brittle and thin on electric guitar. I think a hollowbody would sound even brighter and brittler. And the RNP is a very bright, airy, open preamp - though I don't own one, I'm not sure it'd do your C-1 any favors.

That's just my assumption/experience. YMMV.