The "All 57 Song"

[;ivlunsdystf]

He should have used the 57 on EVERYTHING rather than just using pod guitar and such.

[John Jeffers]

Here is my 'all 57' song, including a blender solo.

Not bad, but you totally ripped off New Kids on the Block.

[jeddypoo]

huh, is there some phase going on btwn the overhead and the snare? The snare seems to thin out now and then.

Overall, not bad for a quick recording. Really some creative equing would have improved everything, too. That kick sounds like crap. What's funny is that I threw a 57 on a kick the other night for shits & giggles and it sounded a lot better than that. I wonder what he's doing wrong.

The song is amazingly bad. Wow.

Wasn't that kind of the point? No "board" to speak of...straight to the Roland using it's onboard pres. I think it sounds pretty damn good and illustrates the point perfectly.

I thought the point was to show you can get a decent track using only 57s. And phase on drums is something you can prevent in mic placement if you're careful, it doesn't require a phase inverter necessarily.

[GrimmBrotherScott]

Jeddypoo, I hear you. I was referring to the suggestion of creative eqing is all.

Although, thinking about it, there is no reason he couldn't have fixed the phase (invert) and just mentioned it. It's a respectable experiment though. I dig it.

[jeddypoo]

Jeddypoo, I hear you. I was referring to the suggestion of creative eqing is all.

Although, thinking about it, there is no reason he couldn't have fixed the phase (invert) and just mentioned it. It's a respectable experiment though. I dig it.

Ah, I see.

yeah, fixing the phase would have been easy to do and it would have helped that snare pop out a little more. It's kind of wierd that he got phase, though, since he used a mono dynamic overhead and didn't mic the bottom head of the snare. I mean I guess it could happen.

[ataraxia]

i wish those songs were on a split 7" the 57 7". hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaa

[GrimmBrotherScott]

Ah, I see.

yeah, fixing the phase would have been easy to do and it would have helped that snare pop out a little more. It's kind of wierd that he got phase, though, since he used a mono dynamic overhead and didn't mic the bottom head of the snare. I mean I guess it could happen.

It might be that "faux" phase lack of punch you get with unisolated/ungated mics on the kick and overheads due to time delay? I say faux because it isn't cancelling out everything, only muddies it up. Actually...is that a phase issue or just an ear issue?

[wedge]

I do believe that I read in an interview of Cake, regarding the recording of their latest CD, that they only used 57s, period. So that record would be the "All 57 Session"...

[self]

i dig the hangin' tough cover. really. Sorta like a newman parody, but in a different way. but i find it easy to believe that it was done on 57s only.

as for the thread starting song, personal taste aside, i would have assumed it to be done in a pro studio if it were playing on radio or any place outside the studio. kudos.

self.

[jeddypoo]

Ah, I see.

yeah, fixing the phase would have been easy to do and it would have helped that snare pop out a little more. It's kind of wierd that he got phase, though, since he used a mono dynamic overhead and didn't mic the bottom head of the snare. I mean I guess it could happen.

It might be that "faux" phase lack of punch you get with unisolated/ungated mics on the kick and overheads due to time delay? I say faux because it isn't cancelling out everything, only muddies it up. Actually...is that a phase issue or just an ear issue?

You may be right- it isn't cancelling out everything, but that's also kind of hard to tell too because he isn't playing that much. But that snare sounds phasey to my ears, regardless of whether it's actually phase or not.

[I'm Painting Again]

does anyone else think the sound of that recording isn't that great?

I think it sounds about right for 57's and a the daw..

[Osumosan]

Joey's song is way cooler!

I'm just quoting the last of three or so posts that I find completely unnecessary. It makes me think there's some kind of clique-y macho posing going on here. Maybe I'm being over sensitive (I usually am) but what's the point of bringing your personal tastes to this thread, especially saying something sucks or is worse than the other thing. I imagine in my minds eye a bunch of "hard" men who feel a need to put down something that's more or less a standard love song before moving on to the real issues of whether there's too much reverb or phase issues.[/i]

[jeddypoo]

Joey's song is way cooler!

I'm just quoting the last of three or so posts that I find completely unnecessary. It makes me think there's some kind of clique-y macho posing going on here. Maybe I'm being over sensitive (I usually am) but what's the point of bringing your personal tastes to this thread, especially saying something sucks or is worse than the other thing. I imagine in my minds eye a bunch of "hard" men who feel a need to put down something that's more or less a standard love song before moving on to the real issues of whether there's too much reverb or phase issues.[/i]

For the record, I mentioned my distaste for the song AFTER bringing up my issues with its sonic qualities. And I maintain that it's not a good song, and I am a great lover of corny pop- albeit very little past 1965 or so. I am so far from a *hard* man that it's not even funny. My mom tried to get me to starting taking testosterone shots.

[I'm Painting Again]

Joey's song is way cooler!

I'm just quoting the last of three or so posts that I find completely unnecessary. It makes me think there's some kind of clique-y macho posing going on here. Maybe I'm being over sensitive (I usually am) but what's the point of bringing your personal tastes to this thread, especially saying something sucks or is worse than the other thing. I imagine in my minds eye a bunch of "hard" men who feel a need to put down something that's more or less a standard love song before moving on to the real issues of whether there's too much reverb or phase issues.[/i]

I try not to get involved that way too and I think your point is great..but whats worse? Expressing a trite personal opinion about the subjet at hand or criticizing someone for their right to express that opinion when its not at all on topic?

[jeddypoo]

does anyone else think the sound of that recording isn't that great?

I think it sounds about right for 57's and a the daw..

No, it's not, but it makes its point- that you can make something.....kinda okayish...with just 57s. I think it could have come out a lot better, but it certainly could have come out worse.

I'm on such an anti-57 kick lately though that I can't be sure of the purity of my opinion. They make everything sound like cardboard (pre-eq).