"Led Zeppelin" drum sounds have ruined rock 'n rol

[;ivlunsdystf]

Rock/Roll killed Bonzo though, too ...

[Monkeyfist]

Q: How many bass players to change a lightbulb?

A: 1, 5, 1, 5, 1, 5, 1, 5 etc.

ANSWER #2: 3 of them... 1 to screw it in and 2 to say "I could do that better."

As a drummer myself I am more partial to the chalky sound of the funk era drummers of the 70's. crisp cymbal and high hat tones, rounded out toms, and a good but not overbearing kick.
Big drums however, if you don't like em' take every Nirvana album you own and burn it, Dave Grohl redifined the big drum sound, and it sounded great to me.

[Snarky]

DUDE... Zeppelin is a sweet band. The "joke" is just appreciating the campiness of the band. I believe what that other dude was referring to was that a lot of people take music really seriously, you know... people like Wilco fans. People who say they like Radiohead (I should give up on that one... I think I'm the only person who hates Radiohead); they think it's gotta be all dark and emo. They don't know how to just kick back and get the Led out. I mean "Whole lotta Love" is a good song, it's about a big dick, but it's awesome... that is to say AND it's awesome. I mean, shit! I wish I had the balls to write a song about that.

Dude, Radiohead bored the shit outta me. Our bass player/singer always tries to get me to like it, and I try, but I hate it. I like two tunes, "paranoid andriod" and "karma police" but "creep" is gay grunge and I can live without sleepytime. But when I try to get him to like Deep Purple, The Darkness, or DRI, I get the same reaction. To each his own, I guess. But you are not alone> Radiohead is pretensious and boring. And U2 and Bob Seeger can jump in a lake.

[;ivlunsdystf]

As a drummer myself I am more partial to the chalky sound of the funk era drummers of the 70's. crisp cymbal and high hat tones, rounded out toms, and a good but not overbearing kick.

You mean like John Guerin on the Joni Mitchell albums?

[Monkeyfist]

You mean like John Guerin on the Joni Mitchell albums?

More like the Joel O'Brien or Russ Kunkel on Tapestry (Carole King). I feel the earth move under my feet...
But with a more poppy snare, and better sounding toms. I guess build it like so:
Dennis Chambers' Toms,
O'Brien or Kunkel's Kick and cymbals,
Terrence Higgins' (Dirty Dozen Brass Band) Snare
And that's... The game!

[Hee-man]

I mean "Whole lotta Love" is a good song, it's about a big dick, but it's awesome... that is to say AND it's awesome. I mean, shit! I wish I had the balls to write a song about that.

LZ pretty much ripped off the lyrics from a Willie Dixon tune ("You Need Love"). Plagiarism is the real heart of rock 'n' roll (regardless of what Huey Lewis says).

[LeedyGuy]

I mean "Whole lotta Love" is a good song, it's about a big dick, but it's awesome... that is to say AND it's awesome. I mean, shit! I wish I had the balls to write a song about that.

LZ pretty much ripped off the lyrics from a Willie Dixon tune ("You Need Love"). Plagiarism is the real heart of rock 'n' roll (regardless of what Huey Lewis says).

I think they said in the Song Remains the Same movie somewhere that they should have been pirates because they were so good at stealing. who cares...they were still kick ass and their stealing is nothing compared to hip/hop thievery.

[trodden]

Q: How many bass players to change a lightbulb?

A: 1, 5, 1, 5, 1, 5, 1, 5 etc.

ANSWER #2: 3 of them... 1 to screw it in and 2 to say "I could do that better."

As a drummer myself I am more partial to the chalky sound of the funk era drummers of the 70's. crisp cymbal and high hat tones, rounded out toms, and a good but not overbearing kick.
Big drums however, if you don't like em' take every Nirvana album you own and burn it, Dave Grohl redifined the big drum sound, and it sounded great to me.

totally on the Grohl when it comes to the Killing Joke record he played drums on. fuck, those drums sound awesome and are played fucking ace.

[SMC Productions]

Personally I hate large drum sounds where the kick it totally fucking badass sounding and the toms are wide open. I strive for really thin dead drumsounds with 0 ambience.

Shit! THAT'S what I've been doing wrong!

[max cooper]

I remember Keith Richards saying a similar thing about the electric bass.

His theory was that in the early days of rock and roll, the guys who had drumkits often had swing and/or big band experience so they would bring that to the table.

The double-bass wasn't very loud so the drummer would just do his thing. Which often was to swing.

When the electric bass arrived on the scene, all of a sudden the drummer could hear the bass player, who would often be playing eighth-notes but since the drummer could hear the bass player, the drummer would switch from swing to straight-eights.

Which is allegedly what turned rock and roll into rock.


Who knows? Nice theory, though.

I think Led Zep drum sounds are good for Led Zeppelin. But I usually prefer the Charlie Watts ethic.

It's all good for something, though.

[.:.impossible]

Which brings us almost full-circle... Brian Jones wore blouses and quit making music well before Plant was on the scene. It wasn't a joke. It was high fashion. High being an operative word there.

[Frankie Swell]

Brian Jones wore blouses and quit making music well before Plant was on the scene. It wasn't a joke.

Terrible comparison.

Brian Jones was all about style and fashion. Chicago blues to Swingin' London. He understood the subtleties of context. Jones could actually get away with dressing like a peacock because he was an original.

It's like comparing Muddy Waters to Robert Plant as musicians.

But back to the thread.

Page is a great producer. I'm really glad he recorded drums that way. It acuallly took a while for the live drums in a room sound to catch on. When I first started working in studios in the late 70's drums were isolated and baffled, with tape all over the heads and wallets on the snare.

[sammyp]

Yeah, I said it. And I'm right. "Lead drums".

This thread is gonna be awesome.

Loop based song writing is killing music today! I think loops sound cool but when people base the song writing around em it's garbage, really sticks out, you can hear the lack of song.

[.:.impossible]

Brian Jones wore blouses and quit making music well before Plant was on the scene. It wasn't a joke.

Terrible comparison.

Brian Jones was all about style and fashion. Chicago blues to Swingin' London. He understood the subtleties of context. Jones could actually get away with dressing like a peacock because he was an original.

It's like comparing Muddy Waters to Robert Plant as musicians.

But back to the thread.

Page is a great producer. I'm really glad he recorded drums that way. It acuallly took a while for the live drums in a room sound to catch on. When I first started working in studios in the late 70's drums were isolated and baffled, with tape all over the heads and wallets on the snare.

I wasn't comparing their music though. And I don't think blouses have anything to do with music or originality. I was comparing their penchant for women's clothing. Plant was not the first to do many things, wearing a blouse being one of them. Brian Jones as well for that matter.

[trodden]

wait til you try leathur pants, that will get you tone like mad fuck.