You might want to re-read your original post, homey.Dirty, what you said about learning principles is exactly what I just said.
This is pretty much on the money. Unless you're going to record for free and for fun, you'll most likely be employed by someone else. Even if you own your own studio you'll be employed by bands, singers, etc. If someone wants a certain sound, you've got to give it to them. It's that simple. If you didn't, you'd be like an interior decorator that shows up and paints the walls a different color than what the client wanted. When confronted, what would you say? "I'm an artist?"dwlb wrote:Anti-Beatles threads are getting as common around here as analog vs. digital threads. It's kind of tiresome.
In my experience, people who say things like "I have prided myself on NOT knowing what people have done in the past" actually end up making pretty dull music.
But from a "this guy wants to be a pro engineer someday" standpoint, I'll offer this up in the interest of being civil and constructive: The last 50 years of rock music (not to even get into other genres and hundreds of years of classical and folk etc.) inform musicians in a way that provides a common set of reference points that makes communication easier. you may be putting together something completely original but still use the Beatles, Sinatra, Elvis, The Eagles, you name it as shorthand for what you're trying to accomplish. If a musician says he wants a John Lennon/Instant Karma vocal echo, or a Fleetwood Mac-type thing on the drums, or he thinks the record should have a feel like Carole King's "Tapestry," or the backup vocals should sound like a country/gospel Johnny Cash record from the '70s, those are clues, not neccesarily requests for direct replication. The more of those common touchpoints you can access in your brain, the easier it'll be to bring the music out the way the artist wants it to sound. This may actually be more important to a career as an engineer than knowing the difference between Blumlein and Mid/Side.
I don't feel threatened at all. I'm sure most of the people here would SAY the same. I think the point here, though, is that he's 21 and learning all of this new technology. He's aproaching it as 100% art which is FINE if that's what he wants to do. I also think it's fine if he hates the Beatles. I'm just reminding him to keep the brain open at all times.bannerj wrote: So am I right in saying that this isn't a matter of anybody being threatend by his dislike for the beatles...just a matter of his unteachability? I am thinking of some of the other threads about interns and how interns are supposed to shut up and never offer their opinion. I am assuming that this kid would have real trouble with that.
wow...I guess we need to qualify what "artist" means in this situation. Engineers are supposed to do what they are told, but at some point in some way they are making artistic and creative decisions...right?votemiles wrote:Recording engineers are not artists. If you want to "do yer own thang", form a band. Sing. Whatever. Don't engineer.
Anybody read the interview with that guy from All American Rejects in a recent Rolling Stone? He admitted to loving musical theater, owning a grand total of 4 albums and only attending 4 shows in his life. Also said Good Vibrations was his favorite song on Pet Sounds.surf's up wrote:Not always following what people have done in the past, sure. But not taking the time to learn a little about the history, thats just lazy arrogance.
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