What could degrade a recording over a set?
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What could degrade a recording over a set?
Going over some live tracks, and the first 5 sound fine, but half way through the sixth and on into the 11th track it becomes more and more degraded to the point where there is so much static noise I can't even make out the music. Nothing was adjusted, no levels were changed to my knowledge, and I was by the console nearly the whole time, and when I wasn't by no one else was either. I checked all my cords, connections, mics, nothing seems to be out of sorts. Could it have been ambient interference of some sort that I wouldn't have noticed? We were outdoors, so that may somehow have played a role in it. Hmmm...
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Static noise, massive amounts of pop as well in parts where there was a lot of playing. I think they may have turned up thier own levels on thier amps, but even in parts where there were dynamic breakdowns it kept sounding unintellegible. One thing I didn't check were the diaphrams on my mics, but I imagine that would have a uniquely different effect. Perhaps heat. I am really wondering whether it is a factor of equiptment or elements.
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What were you recording on?
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About the recording, no wireless mics, but I think I figured out what happened finally, the longer I thought about it, I thought maybe they did adjust thier own levels somehow, and so when I talked to their guitar player, he had admitted they did push up the fade a few times as thier set went on. It's not my recording or my gear I was using, so no real loss for me, but it still bothered me, and then when I finally found out what had happened, I was a little peeved. But then why get frustrated over them doing it to themselves I guess. They have to live with the recording. Not to mention it was the first time I had done anything like this in a long time, and my name won't really be tagged onto it. I still wish they had just kept my mix dialed in the way it was though. It probably wasn't the best but it sounded clean at least. And now I have a few more things I can look for in the future to make sure this doesn't happen again. And I think maybe a tazer might be a good purchase to keep the "I know what I'm doing" guys off the board.
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Wow - so they basically overloaded your recorder's inputs with their quest for more SPL.
Interesting to know... I suspect this is a good case to make for setting a little extra headroom into the chain for such an instance. Like when I get levels on a drummer I always allow that they are gonna hit a lot harder when they are going for a take then when getting sounds - even if I ask them to play as hard as they think they are going to possibly play.
EDIT: Whens I catch typos, I likes to fixes them.
Interesting to know... I suspect this is a good case to make for setting a little extra headroom into the chain for such an instance. Like when I get levels on a drummer I always allow that they are gonna hit a lot harder when they are going for a take then when getting sounds - even if I ask them to play as hard as they think they are going to possibly play.
EDIT: Whens I catch typos, I likes to fixes them.
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Thanks for all the inputs, all the advice that's been posted has been a help for sure and I will try out and apply it. Also trhinking of buying a cattle prod for a primary defense. Sorry it took me so long to get back to this, been slammed with the return of my ship forthcoming and a family emergency, so plese forgive my absence in replying.
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There is a hilarious list of little maxims about all the things that can go wrong with a live recording, written by Robert Fripp in the liner notes to one of the King Crimson archival live albums...maybe I will try and dig it up and post it later when I get around my CDs. My favorite rule was "Tuning a mellotron doesn't."
"Every song needs a cranked marshall for mojo, even if decorum requires muting the track."
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