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Post by logancircle » Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:31 pm

effector wrote:jackson pollock = sonic youth.
I don't know about that. You ask the average Joe whether "Androgenous Mind" is a song and he'll say yes. Ask him if it's music, and he'll say yeah, albeit noisy and dirty. Ask someone is Number 5 a painting and they'll say yes. Ask them if it's art, who knows what they'd say. Who cares.
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Post by spectralgrey » Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:46 pm

Bands like Black Dice or Wolf Eyes come to mind when I think of a musical Jackson Pollock.

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Post by logancircle » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:02 pm

I guess the real question here is what music would be appropriate for this space station? Image
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Post by ??????? » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:10 pm

effector wrote:jackson pollock = sonic youth.
I should point out with all this Pollack talk that, just as there was an impressionist movement in music with debussy, ravel, etc, there was also an expressionist movement with Webern, Schoenberg, Berg, etc.

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Post by floid » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:17 pm

pollock...that masonna triple 7"? or maybe the Annual Reports?
actually, i guess those're more like WSB's shotgun paintings.
When Katrina's last breath came through town, we tried like idiots tracking an "impressionistic" piece in the tin siding warehouse that is my studio...came out more WL/WH era V.U. than anything: V.U. does not sound like Impressionism looks...unless maybe "Olympia" - or was that "pre-impressionism" or something?
I think impressionism, i think Morisot and Monet and how their stuff looks like they always stopped one brushstroke short of completion. Maybe Oar? but then you start begging comparisons to Studio in the South era van Gogh, which was defo very post-ish...
are we talking more in terms of pallette or composition?
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Post by floid » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:41 pm

no but seriously, going way back to the start of this thread, that first time i listened to brand-new nevermind under the covers at midnight, how empty and spacious and perfectly unbalanced that thing sounded...wish it still sounded like that
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Post by ubertar » Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:16 pm

logancircle wrote:I guess the real question here is what music would be appropriate for this space station? Image
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Post by ;ivlunsdystf » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:33 pm

I agree with that Sonic Youth statement.

My first instinct when I first saw this thread was My Bloody Valentine.

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Post by metaphormixer » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:25 am

i think the best musical example of impressionism, if you want to really get into specifics, is "cathedrale engloutie," out of debussy's prelude book 1, no. 10. some of ravel's stuff that people equate with impressionism--his string quartets, for example--don't seem languid or fluid enough to me. they're more like pointillism, or other post-impressionist movements. satie's little nocturnes are pretty exemplary, too.

i agree with whoever mentioned my bloody valentine and brian eno's more ambient stuff as modern equivalents. i love the books, but i don't think they qualify. maybe "the lemon of pink" does, and "lost and safe" and "thought for food" don't? to end on a hypocritical note, genres are silly.
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Post by ??????? » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:53 am

Sunken Cathedral is amazing. I've heard maybe a dozen recordings of the Preludes, and my favorite by far has to be the old Walter Geiseking recordings. It sounds like when it was recorded (about 50 years ago... mono?) but the performances are so soulful and amazing.

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Post by JASIII » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:04 pm

Did anybody say Captain Beefheart yet? If not then I say:


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Post by thunderboy » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:34 pm

The Captain relates a bit more closely to Dadaism/Surrealism than to Impressionism.

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Re: what is the musical equivalent of Impressionism?

Post by JamesHE » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:30 pm

logancircle wrote: Wikipedia says: "Characteristics of Impressionist painting include visible brushstrokes, light colors, open composition... ordinary subject matter, and unusual visual angles."

Talking Heads

but that's maybe a little too wacky and polished - like the flaming lips.

Trying to think of music that has "light colors" I almost draw a blank.


Cat Power.


(trying to stay away from instrumental forms i.e classical and jazz - seems too easy to associate. "rock" music is more of a juxtaposition.)
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Post by Slider » Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:43 pm

sigur r?s maybe?
Why am I even trying to answer this? :shock:

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Post by love_tempo » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:44 am

I read that Satie was supposedly opposed to Impressionism.

More recently the french band Air come to mind, not saying that I particularly like them. Mind you, I don't particularly like impressionist painting either.

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