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Time for some upgrades. (very low grade setup questions)

Post by aeonrevolution » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:54 pm

Okay so my music making rig has finally gotten to the point where my recording setup is bottlenecking my final product.

I play Guitar, Bass, and Keyboards.

I'm running my guitar into a Catalinbread SCOD --> Big Muff --> Vox Wah87 --> DD-20 --> 1970's Ampeg VT-22.

The bass I just DI into the mixer.

Keyboard stuff is all using a midi controller into Fruity Loops (no complaints here).

Now, on to my recording setup. SM57 using Live wires into a small beringer eurorack (MX 802A) out the RCA outputs into the Line in stereo mini input on the back of my computer.

See, if I am able to blast my amp loud enough so that the mixer doesn't need to use any pre-amp gain then things sound sort of decent. The problem is, thats pretty damn loud. Oh yeah. I have integrated audio (yes it just got better). Its a SoundMax something or another.



So heres my predicament. I'm willing to shell out about $200 as of now. What would be my best thing to aim for first?
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Post by RefD » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:57 pm

a goodish (firewire?) audio interface and one or two decent preamps.

okay, i know that's more than one thing. :wink:
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Post by aeonrevolution » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:59 pm

RefD wrote:a goodish (firewire?) audio interface and one or two decent preamps.

okay, i know that's more than one thing. :wink:


Would something like this be worth grabbing?

http://www.zzounds.com/item--ART131
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Post by RefD » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:03 am

aeonrevolution wrote:
RefD wrote:a goodish (firewire?) audio interface and one or two decent preamps.

okay, i know that's more than one thing. :wink:


Would something like this be worth grabbing?

http://www.zzounds.com/item--ART131
i wouldn't kick it out of bed.

however, i would definitely go for a better interface first.

cos that integrated audio is probly your biggest weak link right now.

does your machine have a firewire port?
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Post by aeonrevolution » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:07 am

Hmm........nope. I've got 7 usb inputs though :lol:



Keep in mind ballpark of $200
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Post by RefD » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:11 am

aeonrevolution wrote:Hmm........nope. I've got 7 usb inputs though :lol:



Keep in mind ballpark of $200
platform (Mac or PC), operating system, processor speed and amount of RAM?

cos the two paths open to you are something on a PCI card (possibly with a breakout box) or a USB thingy that ends in a box.
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Post by aeonrevolution » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:16 am

2.66ghz P4, 1.5gb PC2700, Windows XP.



Yeah I was snooping around at the USB DI's. That seems like a better route because, afterall, I will probably never be using more than one channel at a time.


I was poking around in Soundforge/ACID though and I may have to switch software if I go with a USB interface. I'm not sure how they would be able to recognize the incoming signal.
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Post by RefD » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:36 am

aeonrevolution wrote:2.66ghz P4, 1.5gb PC2700, Windows XP.



Yeah I was snooping around at the USB DI's. That seems like a better route because, afterall, I will probably never be using more than one channel at a time.


I was poking around in Soundforge/ACID though and I may have to switch software if I go with a USB interface. I'm not sure how they would be able to recognize the incoming signal.
there will be drivers, no worries.

the Emu 0404 USB looks goodish and has pres.

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and American Musical Supply has it for abt $200.
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Post by kojdogg » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:03 am

there's a midi-less and s/pdif-less version of that for $130-- the 0202
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Post by RefD » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:21 am

kojdogg wrote:there's a midi-less and s/pdif-less version of that for $130-- the 0202
yes, but the remaining audio portion has been cheapjacked to the point where it's not worthwhile anymore.
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Post by aeonrevolution » Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:00 pm

RefD wrote:
kojdogg wrote:there's a midi-less and s/pdif-less version of that for $130-- the 0202
yes, but the remaining audio portion has been cheapjacked to the point where it's not worthwhile anymore.

So the cheaper one doesn't sound the same as the $199 one? :(
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Post by kojdogg » Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:06 pm

He's right-- the specs aren't as good in terms of SNR and others (check their website ( www.emu.com ). It doesn't necessarily mean it's total crap though. I've never heard or even seen one other than web-based images of them though.
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Post by RefD » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:26 pm

Emu generally makes good stuff, so i think it'd probly be a good investment.

and the pres are built-in, so that's two stones with one bird.

it meets your $200 maximum, but maybe you can find a sale?
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Post by aeonrevolution » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:53 pm

Yeah I'm going to snoop around on ebay and see if one pops up.

Thanks guys 8)
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