Man !joel hamilton wrote:Tony, Marc and I (Studio G) all hopped in a snazzy rental car and FLOORED it out of NYC
the suspense is killing me... what kinda car was it ?
Man !joel hamilton wrote:Tony, Marc and I (Studio G) all hopped in a snazzy rental car and FLOORED it out of NYC
I don't know about this. It seems like you're essentially predicting the future, saying that a U47 or neve 1073 will retain it's current (perhaps inflated) value indefinitely. The popularity of equipment waxes and wanes for a variety of reasons as I'm sure you're aware. Weren't U47s seen as arcane and antiquated in the late 70s and 80s? I'm not saying it's useless ephemera, or even a bad purchase, because of course those are great pieces, but gear as an investment lasting longer than say, a year, seems like a pretty tricky proposition.joel hamilton wrote:So true, Joe.
When I just got an M49, it cost SERIOUS money, but I didnt feel like that money was out the window, at all. It feels like money in the bank when you get an amazing piece. You know you can sell a classic neumann microphone for at LEAST what you bought it for, even like one minute after you get it in your hands!
That same moment will drop the value of your ADK to ebay "going rate" used price even one second after buying it. The ssame goes for weird brand stuff... If you get into some weird old compressor, you need to really love it, and have it become a part of your work. I have done that with things like the symetrix 501 or certain other "not-a-zillion-dollars-to-buy" pieces. Saving up for something snazzy is truly one of the joys, IMO, and once you have saved enough for a U47, lets say, you really are not tossing that money like you would if it was a car or something that will devalue with age. If you buy a neve 1073 today, you will TOTALLY be able to sell it for as much as you paid for it, if not more in ten years. Try that with a Nady....
That does not mean that the less expensive tools are crappy, in fact I love many of these kinds of things in the studio. This DOES mean that unless you really love the thing, and get good use out of it, WHY would you buy it? because it is more affordable? Recording is not based on "value" or "cheap stuff" at all. This is not a game to me.
The M49 is not being made any more, and there are more people than ever before getting into recording music/audio on many levels. Even if the M49 was reissued exactly, the originals would be sought after. Of course, people may be born with a USB port in their neck in the coming years, but for now we require a good quality microphone to record something, regardless of the capture format. If we are recording at 96 bit, 10 billion k, we still require something to convert wiggling air to electricity. Seems like the M49 or U47 will be a useful tool for many years to come when you look at it that way. There is also no turning back from demand... when you say that U47's were thought of as "antiquated" in the 80's.... first of all, if you look at the advertising of that era they would have you believe that you should throw away your fairchild 670 and get a Dbx 160 x with the stereo link.... the reality is that you can look at the session pictures of anything from peter frampton to average white band and see a U47 somewhere, on something... something important. Just like the ads today say you should throw away your "old quirky" stuff and get the "reliability" of the plug-in version for the daw flavor of the month...Barry Jive wrote:I don't know about this. It seems like you're essentially predicting the future, saying that a U47 or neve 1073 will retain it's current (perhaps inflated) value indefinitely. The popularity of equipment waxes and wanes for a variety of reasons as I'm sure you're aware. Weren't U47s seen as arcane and antiquated in the late 70s and 80s? I'm not saying it's useless ephemera, or even a bad purchase, because of course those are great pieces, but gear as an investment lasting longer than say, a year, seems like a pretty tricky proposition.joel hamilton wrote:So true, Joe.
When I just got an M49, it cost SERIOUS money, but I didnt feel like that money was out the window, at all. It feels like money in the bank when you get an amazing piece. You know you can sell a classic neumann microphone for at LEAST what you bought it for, even like one minute after you get it in your hands!
That same moment will drop the value of your ADK to ebay "going rate" used price even one second after buying it. The ssame goes for weird brand stuff... If you get into some weird old compressor, you need to really love it, and have it become a part of your work. I have done that with things like the symetrix 501 or certain other "not-a-zillion-dollars-to-buy" pieces. Saving up for something snazzy is truly one of the joys, IMO, and once you have saved enough for a U47, lets say, you really are not tossing that money like you would if it was a car or something that will devalue with age. If you buy a neve 1073 today, you will TOTALLY be able to sell it for as much as you paid for it, if not more in ten years. Try that with a Nady....
That does not mean that the less expensive tools are crappy, in fact I love many of these kinds of things in the studio. This DOES mean that unless you really love the thing, and get good use out of it, WHY would you buy it? because it is more affordable? Recording is not based on "value" or "cheap stuff" at all. This is not a game to me.
-Eric
All I want to know is....jrepro wrote:One good point I think Joel and others make is to buy good gear. You might not need a $6k U47 microphone, but a stock Nady 1050 is not a substitute.
So funny, I thought the same thing... like "I WISH it was 6k for a U47...."Marcocet wrote:All I want to know is....jrepro wrote:One good point I think Joel and others make is to buy good gear. You might not need a $6k U47 microphone, but a stock Nady 1050 is not a substitute.
... Where are you still finding U47's for $6K? Damn have they blown up.
Although apparently Telefunken USA is making the VF-14 again, which (assuming they work) might shift the market around a bit.
-marc goodman
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