How many of us took a Pay Cut to become full time engineers?
- Ryan Silva
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How many of us took a Pay Cut to become full time engineers?
I have through my Video Production company been making roughly 40k a year for 5 years. I do work as an audio engineer, but it barely qualifies compared to the engineering I do on the side for much less money. I must make the assumption that when I open up my new studio (as apposed to the small one I run from my house) I will be financially going backwards. I will be a starving student again, and trying to forget the comfortable living I was making before.
I'm looking for stories, of adjustment to self-employment, and lack of stability.
The things we risk to do what we love.
I'm looking for stories, of adjustment to self-employment, and lack of stability.
The things we risk to do what we love.
"Writing good songs is hard. recording is easy. "
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My income dropped about $7k a year when I moved to the University, and to be quite honest, it still hasn't come back up to match where I was then. I also lost a lot of side work because there's really none available around here. And it's not like the benefits or other things have made up for the pay cut, because I had full benefits at the hifi shop too. Indeed, I could take a vacation there that actually meant something because someone else would do the job while was gone, where here the work just waits for my return.
I know someone is probably ready to throw something at me right about now as I whine about salary & benefits in a full-time recording gig. Believe, me, I enjoy what I do and I think it has been and remains a great opportunity. And the other job was an hourly gig in a retail business, so there's no guarantee I would have not had a pay cut there simply from the fluxuations of the high-end home theater market. None-the-less, it was a pay cut to take the job that I wanted to do more.
-Jeremy
I know someone is probably ready to throw something at me right about now as I whine about salary & benefits in a full-time recording gig. Believe, me, I enjoy what I do and I think it has been and remains a great opportunity. And the other job was an hourly gig in a retail business, so there's no guarantee I would have not had a pay cut there simply from the fluxuations of the high-end home theater market. None-the-less, it was a pay cut to take the job that I wanted to do more.
-Jeremy
I am looking to oopen a studio, with a partner, in the next 5 years, but I'm a teacher and I'll be making plenty of loot by then with a msters degree and all that. I plan on keeping my day job and working the studio at night and weekends and all summer long.
Am I crazy for considering keeping my day job? My partner would most likely keep his as well. We'll need the pension/benefits/salary!!
-Ken
Am I crazy for considering keeping my day job? My partner would most likely keep his as well. We'll need the pension/benefits/salary!!
-Ken
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I didn't give a very clear answer, did I?
I used to be a software developer (nothing music-related), made quite decent money if not the kind of dot-com boom crazy money some people got. On the upside I had a stable job, great co-workers, boss, etc. Small company.
Nowadays I'm working for a live sound company (rentals, shows, sales of a fair amount of pro gear) which is about the same size (8-10 people). I'm wearing all sorts of hats, from IT manager to electronics repair guy to show tech to truck driver. Probably about a 30% pay cut, and the summer hours are a bit crazy. Plus I live in a somewhat more expensive area. But on the other hand I don't have the wrist problems I used to have, much lower stress levels because I get plenty of exercise on the job, and a more interesting set of things to learn.
I used to be a software developer (nothing music-related), made quite decent money if not the kind of dot-com boom crazy money some people got. On the upside I had a stable job, great co-workers, boss, etc. Small company.
Nowadays I'm working for a live sound company (rentals, shows, sales of a fair amount of pro gear) which is about the same size (8-10 people). I'm wearing all sorts of hats, from IT manager to electronics repair guy to show tech to truck driver. Probably about a 30% pay cut, and the summer hours are a bit crazy. Plus I live in a somewhat more expensive area. But on the other hand I don't have the wrist problems I used to have, much lower stress levels because I get plenty of exercise on the job, and a more interesting set of things to learn.
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I just recently quit my full time job to be a house engineer at an already established studio.
I will be making about 9K less than I would if I continued working for my other job, but really, this is way more fun and way more cool. I really spent the time when I was workin at a Pro Audio shop to get ready for when I would be able to get the job offer at the studio. I was working for several years as a non-paid studio intern. I got the job offer, said screw it to the regular job, and am now laying in bed at 1:00 in the afternoon because the British band we're recording still hasn't really adjusted, so neither have I. Guess I better get to work now though.
Ian
I will be making about 9K less than I would if I continued working for my other job, but really, this is way more fun and way more cool. I really spent the time when I was workin at a Pro Audio shop to get ready for when I would be able to get the job offer at the studio. I was working for several years as a non-paid studio intern. I got the job offer, said screw it to the regular job, and am now laying in bed at 1:00 in the afternoon because the British band we're recording still hasn't really adjusted, so neither have I. Guess I better get to work now though.
Ian
I don't think you are crazy at all. I took a full time salaried position in November and so far things have been great. Mind you the day job is very laid back, flexable hours and a ton of time off. The reason I did it is I wanted insurance which my company provided and depending on music alone to pay the bills forced me to take some gigs that I wasn't always interested in. Now that I don't rely on income from recording to eat and pay rent I can pick and choose what projects I work on, take time off when I want rather than when it's slow and I still get plenty offers to do projects and manage to make time for them.kentothink wrote:
Am I crazy for considering keeping my day job? My partner would most likely keep his as well. We'll need the pension/benefits/salary!!
-Ken
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Ditto for me. Happier, and poorer, but getting by, and making more music than ever. I don't know if I could have afforded all the gear I depend on now if it hadn't been for the software job.Scodiddly wrote:If I'd stayed in software, I would have had a nervous breakdown.
So I may have taken a dollars-based pay cut, but I'm much happier.
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I took a pay cut to quit the last music store gig I had and just work at a studio. I got wound up making more money at the next studio where I was employed, but took a bit of a pay cut then to become a freelancer. For me, it's never been about the money, so long as I can pay my rent. It's just something I have to do.
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I own a room so I have definitely taken a pay cut. I still teach one day a week and keep a pert time accompanist job. My wife just got a masters and we now have healthcare and she gets a regular check (she was previously also self-employed).
We get by and enjoy our lives and that's good. It can get pretty stressful when bookings are few...
We get by and enjoy our lives and that's good. It can get pretty stressful when bookings are few...
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I work at a few studios doing freelance stuff, mainly through bands. I work pretty often, but I still work for my father as well which definitely helps me from going to the poor house. Its a tough industry. I'm thinking of starting my own studio but here in LA I'd be a spec of dust on needle in haystack in a haystack factory.
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I make a moderately good salary as an engineer, because I work in advertising. I likely wouldn't make half of what I make now if I was at a music studio.
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I've never worked outside of the music industry... but I took a HUGE pay cut when I went from being a touring FOH engineer to being a studio assistant... now, at 46, I'm making a little bit more than I did when I was 25... but I have a beautiful wife [19 years married], two great kids [13 & 15], and am home 300 days a year as opposed to being in hotels 300 days a year... which to me was well worth the pay cut.
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