can i just say i love your avatar?lefuquaire wrote:don't leave out the fender vibrolux reverb! very popular with the jazz guys, the 2X10 speaker configuration is much tighter than 1X12 and these amps shipped with alnicos for several years. more headroom than a deluxe and not much bigger. way lighter than a twin.
Good amp for jazz guitar??
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That Deluxe Reverb should be a sweet jazz amp. Just the right size for a nice sweet natural distortion for jazz. Great size and weight. If he needs more volume he might have to get a twin or a pro reverb.Harry wrote:Thanks for all the advice....I think I'll tell him to start with getting the amp serviced. if that doesn't do it look into some speakers.
Fenders are one of my favorite amps for clean sounds so I have a hard time pointing him to something else.
All else fails, and he wont change guitars I'll tell him to stuff a sock in it>)
Thanks,
Harry
A Weber speaker will help the output of the amp, more overall volume and more bass.
There's nothing wrong with the Fender Deluxe. Encourage your friend to learn to get the most out of his rig and fingers. It's also possible that his guitar just isnt the right match for that amp. But if that is the case, suggestions on a message board aren't going to help much. He needs to get out there and try some amps.
Here's a clip I made of me playing a '53 Epiphone Triumph Regent with a floating pickup into my '65 Fender Deluxe (non-reverb model) and my '64 6G15 Fender outboard reverb.
Recorded with a Beyerdynamic M-88 off-axis about an inch off the grille, into a Seventh Circle A12 straight to pro-tools.
No EQ or effects or other processing of any kind.
I think it's a pretty nice jazz guitar sound.
http://www.soundsdifferent.com/mroozik/ ... 20Born.mp3
BUT if he wants that super-clean thing... well I have no love for the Polytone or Jazz Chorus. The Acoustic Image company makes some real hi-fi heads and Raezer's Edge cabinets are the logical choice for that. But I never went for the whole "Jimmy Bruno" super-clean type of thing. But if that's what your friend is into, the Clarus with a Raezer's Edge will get him there. Provided his hands bring it to the table first of course
Here's a clip I made of me playing a '53 Epiphone Triumph Regent with a floating pickup into my '65 Fender Deluxe (non-reverb model) and my '64 6G15 Fender outboard reverb.
Recorded with a Beyerdynamic M-88 off-axis about an inch off the grille, into a Seventh Circle A12 straight to pro-tools.
No EQ or effects or other processing of any kind.
I think it's a pretty nice jazz guitar sound.
http://www.soundsdifferent.com/mroozik/ ... 20Born.mp3
BUT if he wants that super-clean thing... well I have no love for the Polytone or Jazz Chorus. The Acoustic Image company makes some real hi-fi heads and Raezer's Edge cabinets are the logical choice for that. But I never went for the whole "Jimmy Bruno" super-clean type of thing. But if that's what your friend is into, the Clarus with a Raezer's Edge will get him there. Provided his hands bring it to the table first of course
True. Peter Bernstein favors one.lefuquaire wrote:don't leave out the fender vibrolux reverb! very popular with the jazz guys
You might want to fact-check that. Fender amps, by the time the blackfaces rolled around, pretty much all shipped with ceramic magnet Jensens or Oxfords (JBL on special order)....these amps shipped with alnicos for several years.
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You might want to fact-check that. Fender amps, by the time the blackfaces rolled around, pretty much all shipped with ceramic magnet Jensens or Oxfords (JBL on special order).
i was actually thinking of silverface since blackfaces are getting pricey these days.. i have a 74 with cts alnicos..
from ampwares fender field amp guide:
Year: 1968-1982
Model: Vibrolux Reverb
Circuit: AA270
Speaker Model: Oxford 10L5 or CTS 10" AlNiCo
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hey i guess i'm a snob too, but i'll still let a siverface fender into the party..
some models (deluxe, princeton etc.. ) suffered only minor circuit changes and can be made to sound as good as any blackface.. and certainly better value than the blackface reissues with their pc boards. still, nothing beats pre-cbs!!!!!
some models (deluxe, princeton etc.. ) suffered only minor circuit changes and can be made to sound as good as any blackface.. and certainly better value than the blackface reissues with their pc boards. still, nothing beats pre-cbs!!!!!
I totally agree.lefuquaire wrote:hey i guess i'm a snob too, but i'll still let a siverface fender into the party..
some models (deluxe, princeton etc.. ) suffered only minor circuit changes and can be made to sound as good as any blackface.. and certainly better value than the blackface reissues with their pc boards. still, nothing beats pre-cbs!!!!!
One thing though is that there's more to it than the circuit.
Those CTS alnico speakers sound none-too-good to me, and the "ox-fart" oxfords are no prizes either. Not to mention they switched from the blue tubular Mallory caps and started using those gross-sounding "chocolate drops," the lead-dress in the amps were inferior causing all sorts of parasitic capacitances, etc etc etc. The transformers actually remained very similar.
But quality of components is at least as important as the circuit. And CBS just did NOT care about that. Maybe Leo didn't care either? but there were certainly better components in the blackface amps.
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if money's no object...
Check out the Carr Rambler. That's the sexiest Deluxe-style amp. It's got the Neve of guitar amp eq's and the mid cut on that might be just what the doctor orderded.
It's not like I can afford one...there like $1800+ in used, near mint condish.
It's not like I can afford one...there like $1800+ in used, near mint condish.
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