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Studio-quality cassette decks?

Post by sad iron » Fri May 25, 2007 4:53 pm

Cross-posting a little here, (I have WTB posting over on the Buy/Sell/Trade) but I am going to be doing a on of cassette transfers this summer and am in the market for a good used studio cassette deck. I have been looking at Nakamichi MR-1's, Tascam 122 mkII. Wondering if anyone has any opinions on those models, suggestions for others and a ballpark idea of what I should pay for a machine that doesn't need a ton of servicing.

Also, if I were to buy something older, what kind of servicing should expect/consider on a used machine. I am going to be transferring author readings from cassette into the digital world. Maybe doing a little clean up along the way. The fidelity of said recordings is likely to be poor.
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Post by Cellotron » Fri May 25, 2007 5:57 pm

One other option is the Denon DT 625 combo CD / cassette player which is available new for very reasonable cash. The cassette player has both unbalanced on RCA & balanced outputs on XLR, a bi-directional transport, Dolby B & C encoding/decoding, track start / silence searching, vari-pitch, and sounds very good to my ear. Plus as a "bonus" (or maybe the main reason to get it) it has a CD player with coaxial spdif output (so you can send it direct to DAW or to the DA converter of your choice) and CD Text display among other nice features.

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Post by philbo » Sat May 26, 2007 6:14 am

If you can find one, a Teac C3 is great - - built like a tank, 3 heads, no digital boogery, just a good, clean analog sound. Has bias adjustments right on the front panel.

I've had mine since '73, and replaced only 1 part, the belt for the tape counter. It still works and sounds great.
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Post by kinger » Sat May 26, 2007 8:09 pm

I own a Tascam 112MKII and the thing's built like a tank. I don't know how it compares to some other high-end units, but you can use it day-in, day-out with consistent results and no fear of break-downs.

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Post by sad iron » Sat May 26, 2007 8:14 pm

so, how much do folks really use cassette decks now?

I have this dream that I could mix down to cassette, just cause I like the Luddite vibe.
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Post by djimbe » Sat May 26, 2007 8:35 pm

Mixing to cassette can sometimes be cool. It sounds like the tapes you made when you were a kid, just better.

It can be fun for a drum buss. Print your drum buss, then fly it back into a DAW. Use it like you would a parallel compressed drum buss. Sometimes the weird phasing from the lack of sync can be a cool spacial thing instead of reverb. Sometimes it's just crap...

The models that have vari-speed and three heads make a handy tape delay. Feed a short delay from a box or an Echoplex into one and set the cassette deck up for a long delay for multi-tap stupidity...
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Post by sad iron » Sat May 26, 2007 8:41 pm

you mean like wheni put the handheld up to the radio to get Kasey's top 40? Cool.
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Post by djimbe » Sat May 26, 2007 8:46 pm

sad iron wrote:you mean like wheni put the handheld up to the radio to get Kasey's top 40? Cool.
No, more like when you made a little stand for the mic and positioned in between the speakers of your family's console unit. Maybe with a bit more control.

But...yeah...
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Post by sad iron » Sat May 26, 2007 8:53 pm

djimbe wrote:
sad iron wrote:you mean like wheni put the handheld up to the radio to get Kasey's top 40? Cool.
No, more like when you made a little stand for the mic and positioned in between the speakers of your family's console unit. Maybe with a bit more control.

But...yeah...

wow, i think that's the record i always wanted to make...
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Post by kittonian » Thu May 31, 2007 7:55 am

There's not much call for it these days but I have a Tascam 302 dual deck with a specially wired Mogami Quad snake (RCA->DSUB) that runs into our patchbay just in case anyone wants a cassette and/or a transfer is needed. The thing is rock solid and sounds great. Never had an issue.
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Post by mikeyc » Thu May 31, 2007 8:38 am

sad iron wrote:you mean like wheni put the handheld up to the radio to get Kasey's top 40? Cool.
:lol:

I thought I was the only one!

Actually, I held my Fisher Price recorder up to the TV speaker to get Hungry Like the Wolf off of Night Tracks. Awesome. Then there was the time I brought a boom box to the drive-in and recorded 45 minutes of Army of Darkness. I need to find that tape...

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Post by I'm Painting Again » Thu May 31, 2007 2:10 pm

a nakamichi dragon in good shape is really hi-fi..comparable to a 24bit DAW

20 HZ~22,000 Hz ? 3 dB

that would be one to look for..

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Post by sad iron » Thu May 31, 2007 2:28 pm

I was looking at the Dragons and they were pricier than I wanted to go. I ended up winning this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0120210777

Doesn't have the SPDIF Steve was talking about, but I got it for $80. Goes for $500 new. So, as long as it's in good shape I can probably resell it if I don't want to hang onto after I'm done with this project.
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Post by I'm Painting Again » Thu May 31, 2007 5:57 pm

if Steve said it was good I think you will be happy..he has good taste..

happy cassetting!

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Post by getreel » Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:30 pm

I second Denon. Even their lower prised decks alway sounded really good. I'll have to look and see what model mine is.

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