drums in my direct guitar track?

[scott macdonald]

So I was reamping some guitar a couple days ago, and during quit spots I could hear the drums coming out of the amp. They were quiet, but they were there. I listened to the direct track by itself, outside of my DAW, and there were no drums in it.

I imagine this is crosstalk, and I'm wondering if my interface or my DAW is to blame. I'm running Tracktion 2 and an Echo AudioFire 12. The direct track was solo'd, sent to its own output channel, and run directly into a Little Labs Red Eye reamp box.

Any idea?

-scott

[roscoenyc]

did you play the guitar at the same time as the drums were played?

Pickups picked up the drums?

[scott macdonald]

Yeah, the guitar was played in the room as the drums played. But I listened to the direct guitar track on its own just using a basic audio player (not multitrack) and didn't hear drums in it. So that's why I think it's crosstalk -- I just don't what's to blame.

[RodC]

The guitar pickup acts like a microphone. The vibration affects the ocillation of the strings.

Next time you have your gain real high, scream into it. You will hear your voice in the amp.

Prob not crosstalk, put your guitar close to the snare an record only the guitar track, you will hear what Im talking about. It can be a weird effect, Vox through it is reall interesting.

[vsr600]

when you re-amped, did you use distortion or compression? That might be why you didn't hear the drums when listening through the daw but you heard them coming out of the amp. If you had it soloed, there's probably no way that could be cross talk. Maybe are you sending the guitar track to an auxilary channel for an effect (like reverb or something) and also sending the drums to that same aux... so when you solo the track the aux gets soloed with it and you hear the drums?

[???????]

what model guitar and what kind of pickups?

[scott macdonald]

It was a Rickenbaker with single coils. And when I reamped the track, the amp was loud loud loud and distorted, so it's definitely possible that the drums were in the track and the reamping brought them up to audible.

In fact, I remember a thread on this board where somebody talked about using a guitar with a sensitive pickup as a room mic for drums.

Thanks for the info, guys. Maybe next session I'll try that guitar-as-room-mic trick.

-scott

[vsr600]

It was a Rickenbaker with single coils. And when I reamped the track, the amp was loud loud loud and distorted, so it's definitely possible that the drums were in the track and the reamping brought them up to audible.

In fact, I remember a thread on this board where somebody talked about using a guitar with a sensitive pickup as a room mic for drums.

Thanks for the info, guys. Maybe next session I'll try that guitar-as-room-mic trick.

-scott

yea that's exactly what happened, you're gonna get that especially with a hollowbody with single coils. Hehe that might have even been me that was talking about using that as a room mic for drums (for an effect). Check out http://www.myspace.com/thesleepwalkersband I did that on the beginning of their song Down With Baby. The guitar player was using an epiphone casino through a big muff in the same room as the drums...

[Z MINOR SOUND]

I like the intro of the song that the casino was used for a room mic.

Interesting use of tools.

I dig it.

Scott you should reamp the pzm in the golf bag you used for an ambient mic through your epiphone sheraton.