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Phantom Power Saftey Question

Post by jckinnick » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:19 pm

Is it bad for your equipment to plug and unplug mics while phantom power is still on? Could it mess something up if so like what?

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Post by The Scum » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:20 pm

The first thing that comes to mind is you're more likely to get big pops and thumps unplugging live mics, so you risk your speakers.

99% of the time, the mics and the mic inputs will be fine. Phantom power is designed to be fairly safe...there's almost no current available, so there's very little destructive force. There were "classic/vintage" consoles where the phantom wasn't switchable, and on all the time.

The other 1% is probably attributable to mis-wired cables, mics that had some other damage already, and freak accidents.

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Post by fossiltooth » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:28 pm

I am going to take the liberty to answer every question about phantom power for the rest of my life:

Dude.

It's fine.

There you go. That settles it.

Are you using an older ribbon mic with a miswired cable?

No?

OK.

Then it's fine.

Every once in a while a superstitious old fogey will tell you that you shouldn't plug or unplug condensers with phantom powered on. You'll hear someone say, that virgin dynamics never exposed to phantom sound better.

Malarky, I say!

There's a lot of studios out there with boards that have global phantom that never gets turned off. Take almost any studio with a 80 series Trident for instance.

Dude.

It's fine.

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Post by joel hamilton » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:47 pm

My console has phantom power on all the time. I still manage to record people.

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Post by nacho459 » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:57 pm

Only buy tube condensers that way you won't need phantom power at all. :wink:

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Post by A-Barr » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:02 pm

Man, I can't tell you how many hours of my life I've wasted waiting the 30 seconds between shutting off phantom power and unplugging my mics.

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Post by A-Barr » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:03 pm

nacho459 wrote:Only buy tube condensers that way you won't need phantom power at all. :wink:
Or ribbons! Tubes and ribbons!

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Post by Ryan Silva » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:47 pm

Hey my last post on this thread got nixed, hmmm? Oh thats right, it was a smart assed post that didn't help the question at hand. Guess I had it commin.

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Post by Ryan Silva » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:49 pm

Ya I still may never be comfortable with pluging and un-plugging mics with phantom on, but it does seem silly nowadays.
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