subkick vs beta 52 or D6

[Dark star Balla]

I'm thinking of getting a sub kick mic (yamaha) but I was just wondering if it is neccessary or would it be equivilent if I used like a D6 or beta 52 a and just hyped the low lows in addition to my D112? would it give me the same or close affect?
What y'all think?

[mjau]

The D6 gets a good bit of sub-low stuff happening, but you can make a sub kick mic fairly easily with any old speaker, a snare stand, and a 1/4" cable.

[RodC]

The sub kick is really "sub" not many kick mics will even produce that many lows.

Make yourself one with a spare speaker you have around and try it out. It will save you some cash.

[Dark star Balla]

You know I have a 15" eminece and was thinking of that but wouldn't know how to wire it correctly for one and 2 wouldn't I need to build a case or enclosure for it? which seems to be a serious task in itself.

[RodC]

You know I have a 15" eminece and was thinking of that but wouldn't know how to wire it correctly for one and 2 wouldn't I need to build a case or enclosure for it? which seems to be a serious task in itself.

Nope, you dont need an enclosure, just something to hold it up. A 6" speaker will work pretty good as well.

If you wire it wrong you wont tear anything up. There are several ways to do it but the simplest is to wire the + of the speaker to the - XLR connector and the - to the positive. Some ppl use a transformer but its really not necessary.

BTW XLR Pin 1 = shield (ground) Pin 2 = (+) Pin 3 = (-).

[mjau]

You know I have a 15" eminece and was thinking of that but wouldn't know how to wire it correctly for one and 2 wouldn't I need to build a case or enclosure for it? which seems to be a serious task in itself.

I've seen snare drum stands used to hold speaker mic's, so if you've got a spare one of those around, you're in business.

[Smitty]

i use the subwoofer (still in the enclosure)from a decent computer surround sound system as my sub-kick... the thing is HELLA sensitive, pretty much has a built-in low-pass, and sounds reeeeal nice. i got it out of the trash on move-out day in my dorm when i was in school.

[akg414]

You know I have a 15" eminece and was thinking of that but wouldn't know how to wire it correctly for one and 2 wouldn't I need to build a case or enclosure for it? which seems to be a serious task in itself.

Nope, you dont need an enclosure, just something to hold it up. A 6" speaker will work pretty good as well.

If you wire it wrong you wont tear anything up. There are several ways to do it but the simplest is to wire the + of the speaker to the - XLR connector and the - to the positive. Some ppl use a transformer but its really not necessary.

BTW XLR Pin 1 = shield (ground) Pin 2 = (+) Pin 3 = (-).

This is great, thanks! Couple questions:

1. What do you do with Pin 1 of the XLR?
2.This is as simple as cutting the end off an XLR, then do the wiring?

Thanks!

[akg414]

There are several ways to do it but the simplest is to wire the + of the speaker to the - XLR connector and the - to the positive. Some ppl use a transformer but its really not necessary.

So you're telling me that I can grab an old JBL 6-inch stereo speaker I have (in it's wooden enclosure) and simply insert the wires into the back of it (as if I were connecting it to my stereo normally) and cut up a mic cable, and solder the speaker's + to the XLR's -, and the speaker's - to the XLR's + ????

That's it?

[JamesHE]

Or if you have a speaker cab with a 1/4 plug and a XLR to 1/4 cable, you can just set the enclosure in front of the kick and plug it into a pre. I did this with some old PA cab I had around - I did disconnect the horn first.

It's real simple. just think of the spaker as a mic and find a way to plug it into a mic amp.

[digitaldrummer]

DIY

http://www.digitaldrummer.net/subkick.htm



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[RodC]

There are several ways to do it but the simplest is to wire the + of the speaker to the - XLR connector and the - to the positive. Some ppl use a transformer but its really not necessary.

So you're telling me that I can grab an old JBL 6-inch stereo speaker I have (in it's wooden enclosure) and simply insert the wires into the back of it (as if I were connecting it to my stereo normally) and cut up a mic cable, and solder the speaker's + to the XLR's -, and the speaker's - to the XLR's + ????

That's it?

Yup

[???????]

I got new car speakers and took one of my old car speakers, a 6.5" "nissan" 4 ohm speaker and made a subkick out of it.

Basically I nailed it to a piece of wood, screwed the metal part of a mic clip into said piece of wood. Soldered a 1/4" cable on the end and plugged it into a countryman DI. Works great. I might eschew the DI and wire up an XLR on it instead to save me some trouble.

[drumsound]

Here's a picture of my ghettofabulous speaker mic. I wired it to a 1/4" and use a DI into the snake.

[RodC]

drumsound, Im gonna need some CAD images of that with some dimentions.