A "vocalist" NEEDS a handheld mic to "get int
A "vocalist" NEEDS a handheld mic to "get int
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I'd like to pick up something, since I've had this happen twice in the last year. Screaming, growling nonsense, but I'd still like decent frequency response. Terrible mic technique is a given (eating the mic, cupping it into being a semi-omni, etc.)
57's and 58's just aren't cutting it (at least mine aren't). Like a hi-fi telephone.
Beta 58? Beyer M88? SM7 (a little awkward as a handheld, but...)? The secret weapon make/model you're about to lay on me?
Please advise.
I'd like to pick up something, since I've had this happen twice in the last year. Screaming, growling nonsense, but I'd still like decent frequency response. Terrible mic technique is a given (eating the mic, cupping it into being a semi-omni, etc.)
57's and 58's just aren't cutting it (at least mine aren't). Like a hi-fi telephone.
Beta 58? Beyer M88? SM7 (a little awkward as a handheld, but...)? The secret weapon make/model you're about to lay on me?
Please advise.
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One of the guys who engineers Aerosmith gives Steven Tyler a handheld mic but also aims a shotgun mic at him and tracks most of the vocals with that.
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I have done something similar to punk singers. I give them a 58 and set up an omni mic against a flat surface directly opposite to where their mouth points (3 or 4 feet away) and tell them to think of the omni mic as the audience. I record both mics and take whichever sounds best. Sometimes you can EQ the handheld and mix it with the omni mic if the singer doesn't move around too much.
If that doesn't work, I have run the handheld mic through a PA and mic'd that. Obviously it's not HiFi, but if the band wants to sound live, it's the way to go.
If that doesn't work, I have run the handheld mic through a PA and mic'd that. Obviously it's not HiFi, but if the band wants to sound live, it's the way to go.
not to worry, just keep tracking....
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apropos of nothing wrote:If you're a really nice person, you'll hit record on the track that the 58 is routed to.
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Yeah, a friend of mine who tracked Coalesce back in the day used to hand Sean Ingram one of those. Watching some on Ebay now.drumsound wrote:M88 will take EQ well, plus it has great rejection if you want to track vocals while tracking basics. I usually use onr or scratch vocals because I can actually listen to the scratch without the drum being all fucked up like when you use a mic with crappy rejection...
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A Beyer M-88 can sound really great, but one of mine did blow up on a session with a "Cookie Monster"-type singer who was cupping his hands around it. I don't know if this is directly related to the mic's destruction or not, but I just thought I'd mention it.
Another excellent mic for this kind of thing is the Sennheiser MD-431. No one ever talks about those mics. Mine sounds exactly like a 421 (have compared them directly side-by-side on a couple of sources) but it's actually designed as a hand-held sort of thing. Because no one seems to know about them, they can usually be had kind of inexpensively on ebay.
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Another excellent mic for this kind of thing is the Sennheiser MD-431. No one ever talks about those mics. Mine sounds exactly like a 421 (have compared them directly side-by-side on a couple of sources) but it's actually designed as a hand-held sort of thing. Because no one seems to know about them, they can usually be had kind of inexpensively on ebay.
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I've seen it followed by a 1272 and a CL1B, straight to "Tape" (pro tools)apropos of nothing wrote:I'm tempted to guess that Mos Def says he uses a 57 to record vox.KennyLusk wrote:Yeah, but Mos Def is an amazing artist with years of experience. Huge talent.rydaken wrote:Mos Def uses a 57. Hand held at that.
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Now you've done it.cgarges wrote: Because no one seems to know about them, they can usually be had kind of inexpensively on ebay.
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