The Obligatory Fake-Out Lo-Fi Intro, is it Cliche Yet?

[MoreSpaceEcho]

i still like doing 'natural lofi' drums with just the bullet mic, does that count as cliche too?

[RefD]

i still like doing 'natural lofi' drums with just the bullet mic, does that count as cliche too?

so long as it doesn't sound like the intro to "Tubthumping" you're probly safe.

[trodden]

It's about as cliche'd as a reversed cymbal crash and then a short pause before the first chord of a metalcore song

But I enjoy them both. Cliches can sound good. Depends on the record and the band.

ahahaha... we totally did that on our last record, cept it was a backwards snare!! along with hella backwards vocals... we're suckers for that

[weatherbox]

i still like doing 'natural lofi' drums with just the bullet mic, does that count as cliche too?

so long as it doesn't sound like the intro to "Tubthumping" you're probly safe.

[JGriffin]

i still like doing 'natural lofi' drums with just the bullet mic, does that count as cliche too?

Once you start bitcrushing it...clich? city!

[RefD]

i still like doing 'natural lofi' drums with just the bullet mic, does that count as cliche too?

Once you start bitcrushing it...clich? city!

but what if it's a bullet mic going into a Sound Blaster Deluxe?

(8 bit/22khz mono, btw)

[mcRack]

A band from Finland comes to mind.....hmmm...the RASMUS...
discusting.....

[rpmsongs]

i was thinking of using a severe low pass the other day, through the bridge of a song, it's a slow song, so there's no obvious surprises, but, it's a bit interesting since you have to consciously try to listen again. gives you a chance to re adjust your ears. like taking a knap in the middle of a song.

[JGriffin]

i still like doing 'natural lofi' drums with just the bullet mic, does that count as cliche too?

Once you start bitcrushing it...clich? city!

but what if it's a bullet mic going into a Sound Blaster Deluxe?

(8 bit/22khz mono, btw)

Well, that's a good point. If it's not done through a bitrman or lo-fi plugin, is it still a clich

[A-Barr]

I have been thinking about this, trying to figure out what exactly is cliche about it...

It still sounds cool when the instruments come in one at a time, like acoustic guitar - electric - bass & drums (i.e. "Counterfeit Umbrella")

It still sounds good to me to hear a Bach fugue where one voice enters with the subject, followed by a second, third, et.. Although I have some friends who find that pretty boring too...

Basically if it is a musical arrangement of the same technique, it does it just fine for me, and as has been said, pretty much everything in music is a cliche in some sense, not that there isn't original music being made, but most everything out there uses established building blocks and techniques, mixing included.

Is it that it is such obvious heavy-handed engineering? I still like the crazy panning that happens in early Pink Floyd records, reverse delay, over-compressed drums and double tracked vocals, although I suppose one *could* argue all that was cliche too, if he or she was extra-cynical.

Whatever. Guess it's not that big a deal, matter of taste, subjective, bla bla bla, I don't like drum loops, piezo guitars or diva vox but God help us, they are everywhere and who am I to diss them? They probably don't like Morton Feldman or Can either. Their loss.

[???????]

A-Barr is a CAN fan?

Dude, I swear, you're like my doppelg?nger, or something...

we seem to agree on everything, especially amps.

[JGriffin]

I have been thinking about this, trying to figure out what exactly is cliche about it...

It still sounds cool when the instruments come in one at a time, like acoustic guitar - electric - bass & drums (i.e. "Counterfeit Umbrella")

It still sounds good to me to hear a Bach fugue where one voice enters with the subject, followed by a second, third, et.. Although I have some friends who find that pretty boring too...

Basically if it is a musical arrangement of the same technique, it does it just fine for me, and as has been said, pretty much everything in music is a cliche in some sense, not that there isn't original music being made, but most everything out there uses established building blocks and techniques, mixing included.

Is it that it is such obvious heavy-handed engineering? I still like the crazy panning that happens in early Pink Floyd records, reverse delay, over-compressed drums and double tracked vocals, although I suppose one *could* argue all that was cliche too, if he or she was extra-cynical.

I suppose something is more likely to be considered clich? if you're not a fan of the style of music that utilizes that technique/trick/whatever.

[SplitSingleJoe]

Thanks for mentioning Barkmarket I'd forgotten how good they were.

Yeah good call Marc, I haven't heard Barkmarket in so long! What an awesome band. I have an old guitar magazine interview with the guitar player somewhere where he details some of his favorite odd ball recording techniques.

The Bronx's first self titled record opens with the cliche filtered intro, and in that records case it actually helps because despite being an awesome record it really isn't that great sounding. I still almost crash my jeep in excitement every time the full bandwidth mix kicks in though. ANyone traveling on I95 in Philly beware!

pretty much everything in music is a cliche in some sense, not that there isn't original music being made, but most everything out there uses established building blocks and techniques, mixing included.

I often tell musicians "All music is an arrangement of cliches, its how creatively you arrange them that is key to making something worth listening to".

[A-Barr]

A-Barr is a CAN fan?

Dude, I swear, you're like my doppelg?nger, or something...

we seem to agree on everything, especially amps.

Everytime I meet another Can fan, it's like I'm 13 years old and I'm all "You like them TOO??!!"


Rock on, brotha.

[JGriffin]

A-Barr is a CAN fan?

Everytime I meet another Can fan, it's like I'm 13 years old and I'm all "You like them TOO??!!"


Rock on, brotha.

There's more of us around than you might think.