Andy Johns: Photo-Essay For Miking Drums

akg414 · Post by **akg414** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:30 am

Not sure if this was posted already, but a very interesting series of photos showing Andy's mic placement for recording drums.

There are about 9 pages of photos.

https://www.platinumsamples.com/AndyTra ... g_001.html

Joe Barresi has some pix too from this site.

Enjoy...

Drummer519 · Post by **Drummer519** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:58 am

Good stuff! Thanks for the pictures. Man, you guys were using a TON of mics. It always surprises me when I see so many mics on one kit, every drum double-mic'd, individual crashes mic'd. I'd hate to be mixing it!

Thanks again for the pictures!

akg414 · Post by **akg414** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:00 am

Drummer519 wrote:Man, you guys were using a TON of mics.

I only found this site. I don't work with Andy.

Wish I did

Drummer519 · Post by **Drummer519** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:35 pm

Ah, my bad. I misunderstood.

aaronburr · Post by **aaronburr** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:10 pm

i feel like the only reason he is putting so many mics on the drums there is because its for a samples collection?

although i dont know much about andy johns, so unless he is some sort of anti-glyn johns then i bet thats just for the samples thing.

@?,*???&? · Post by **@?,*???&?** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:09 pm

aaronburr wrote:although i dont know much about andy johns, so unless he is some sort of anti-glyn johns then i bet thats just for the samples thing.

OMG. Are you guys that young?

Andy's discography:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=am ... q95ldfe~T4

Holy crap. Every other great rock and roll record was recorded by him.

cgarges · Post by **cgarges** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:20 pm

@?,*???&? wrote:Every other great rock and roll record was recorded by him.

Maybe not every other great record. Maybe every fourth one. You have to account for other hacks like Eddie Kramer and then the really talented guys like his older brother and Tom Dowd.

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

mjau · Post by **mjau** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:22 pm

cgarges wrote:Eddie Kramer

Wow...I'm trying to think of a great Eddie Kramer mix, and I can't. Never really realized that.

cgarges · Post by **cgarges** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:41 pm

I'll give him some credit-- the Woodstock record sounds pretty good, given the circumstances. Other than that, I've said it before and I'll say it again: the guy was there for some great records that had NOTHING to do with him being there aside from a stiff finger being able to hit "record." Jimi Hendrix could have made any of his records with two kindergarteners holding two Dixie cups and Piece of string and they would have been equally as cool as anything Eddie Kramer did. Maybe even better.

Tom Dowd and Glyn Johns? Engineering Gods! hard to compare anything when those two guys were making records at the same time.

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

Ryan Silva · Post by **Ryan Silva** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:29 am

I want that room, I mean I would sell a kidney to own that room.

@?,*???&? · Post by **@?,*???&?** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:01 am

mjau wrote:
cgarges wrote:Eddie Kramer
Wow...I'm trying to think of a great Eddie Kramer mix, and I can't. Never really realized that.

Are you kidding? Listen to 'Electric Ladyland' and then understand how people were working at the time. Like Geoff Emerick, Kramer was pushing the medium to it's limits.

aaronburr · Post by **aaronburr** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:02 am

@?,*???&? wrote:
OMG. Are you guys that young?

Andy's discography:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=am ... q95ldfe~T4

Holy crap. Every other great rock and roll record was recorded by him.

i know WHO he is, DUH.
i just dont know much about his TECHNIQUES.
geez

mjau · Post by **mjau** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:11 am

@?,*???&? wrote:
mjau wrote:
cgarges wrote:Eddie Kramer
Wow...I'm trying to think of a great Eddie Kramer mix, and I can't. Never really realized that.
Are you kidding? Listen to 'Electric Ladyland' and then understand how people were working at the time. Like Geoff Emerick, Kramer was pushing the medium to it's limits.

I love Ladyland, but definitely not for its sound. In fact, I think I love Ladyland despite its signature.

bluesman · Post by **bluesman** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:35 am

Tastes, as far as "the sound" or "the sonic signature" change every few years. If you make a ground breaking, great sounding record today, your technique will be copied by many, improved upon by some & become cliche'd in just a few years. Electric Ladyland sounded like it came from outer space when it was fresh & new....so alien & different! It still inspires me to this day. Give me the chance to record a Hendrix or a Beatles & you can rag on my style all you want, but I will still be the guy who did it!

Slider · Post by **Slider** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:13 pm

Listen to Magical Mystery Tour. When you hear the hack engineering on one particular track, look down at the credits and there will be Eddie Kramers name.

It seems Andy (like Geoff Emerick) has forgotten how he used to record records.
Don't hire these guys thinking they will use classic techniques. They are desperately trying to be "current" and losing the battle.
BTW. Those pictures look a bit like Sound City's control room.

Message Board

Andy Johns: Photo-Essay For Miking Drums

Andy Johns: Photo-Essay For Miking Drums

Who is online