Moog guitar with infinite sustain?

tubetapexfmr · Post by **tubetapexfmr** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:32 am

The design looks interesting and I am curious to hear what it sounds like. I still can't get over that price however. Someone should pair it with the Metasonix Fucking Fucker Amp http://www.metasonix.com/index.php?opti ... view&id=36 for $5000. Then they'd have the ugliest, most overpriced NEW rig out there!

tdbajus · Post by **tdbajus** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:24 pm

well, after seeing the Moog guitar, i was wondering if the plans for a michael Brook style sustainer were out there. They are indeed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecvzWBYwJR4

Makes me wonder if I take a little smokey amp, hook an old pickup into it instead of the speaker.....

TRIFECTA · Post by **TRIFECTA** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:28 pm

jessemesasavage wrote:The design looks interesting and I am curious to hear what it sounds like. I still can't get over that price however. Someone should pair it with the Metasonix Fucking Fucker Amp http://www.metasonix.com/index.php?opti ... view&id=36 for $5000. Then they'd have the ugliest, most overpriced NEW rig out there!

The only thing worth 5000 about this, is the name of the amp. Or you could spend 10 bucks and make the name yourself on an amp.

TRIFECTA · Post by **TRIFECTA** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:29 pm

jessemesasavage wrote:The design looks interesting and I am curious to hear what it sounds like. I still can't get over that price however. Someone should pair it with the Metasonix Fucking Fucker Amp http://www.metasonix.com/index.php?opti ... view&id=36 for $5000. Then they'd have the ugliest, most overpriced NEW rig out there!

Its on youtube with lou reed demoing one and I think he actually fornicated with it.

TRIFECTA · Post by **TRIFECTA** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:35 pm

joel hamilton wrote:hmm... ugly and expensive... looks like it will be a sought after rarity in 20 years!

Wasnt there a gibson bass... the "RD artist" or something, that had moog electronics in it???

edit: yes there was... http://www.gibsonbass.com/RDartist.php

YES! I love the gibson RD line. They had guitars and basses and they are a very very amazing guitar that never took. They were under a grand easily a year ago and in the last year they are all breaking 1000 sometimes even 2000 for first year RD artists, unless they are heavily modified or whatever.

Superb guitars IMO. The moog electronics in the RD's are nothing like this new moog bullshit guitar.

ashcat_lt · Post by **ashcat_lt** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:19 pm

tdbajus wrote:well, after seeing the Moog guitar, i was wondering if the plans for a michael Brook style sustainer were out there. They are indeed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecvzWBYwJR4

Makes me wonder if I take a little smokey amp, hook an old pickup into it instead of the speaker.....

Could cause the pickup to burn up, might hurt the amp (way more than 8 ohms ), and may not necessarily give you what you're looking for.

Here's a link to a thread on GuitarNutz which is a little bit shorter than the one on projectguitar, but there is a link included to the "master thread" on the internet re: DIY sustainers.

I'd love to know more about these. From the description I wonder if they haven't worked out a hex pickup/sustainer arrangement. Very much like to know how they get the pickup and driver so close together without causing horrible noise.

TRIFECTA · Post by **TRIFECTA** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:27 pm

Juice at electrical board's take which is exactly what it is.
, I just suck at using words.

"sort of amazing, maybe not really. In theory all it is doing is reamplifying the signal magnetically as basically a positive feedback mechanism. Deadening the strings is exaclty that, the inverse, or using negative feedback. By using magnets, you would increase the magnetic field at the peaks of the signal to produce positive feedback, or increase the magnetic field at the zeros to increase negative feedback, just like pushing a kid on a swingset."

There are a lot of people who could do this for way way way less and make the fucking guitar look cool.

tdbajus · Post by **tdbajus** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:37 am

there is something about that guitar that says "sexless wanker"....

fremitus · Post by **fremitus** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:32 pm

joel hamilton wrote:hmm... ugly and expensive... looks like it will be a sought after rarity in 20 years!

Wasnt there a gibson bass... the "RD artist" or something, that had moog electronics in it???

edit: yes there was... http://www.gibsonbass.com/RDartist.php

look! joel actually has one of those RD artist basses!

sorry joel but it does look a LITTLE like you...

joel hamilton · Post by **joel hamilton** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:46 pm

fremitus wrote:
joel hamilton wrote:hmm... ugly and expensive... looks like it will be a sought after rarity in 20 years!

Wasnt there a gibson bass... the "RD artist" or something, that had moog electronics in it???

edit: yes there was... http://www.gibsonbass.com/RDartist.php
look! joel actually has one of those RD artist basses!

sorry joel but it does look a LITTLE like you...

Youch... not really.

TRIFECTA · Post by **TRIFECTA** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:00 pm

joel hamilton wrote:
fremitus wrote:
joel hamilton wrote:hmm... ugly and expensive... looks like it will be a sought after rarity in 20 years!

Wasnt there a gibson bass... the "RD artist" or something, that had moog electronics in it???

edit: yes there was... http://www.gibsonbass.com/RDartist.php
look! joel actually has one of those RD artist basses!

sorry joel but it does look a LITTLE like you...

Youch... not really.

I would say that is a compliment.

fremitus · Post by **fremitus** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:18 am

i dunno, i thought it looked a bit like you...

The Real MC · Post by **The Real MC** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:41 pm

I used to own one of those RD Artist basses. They were heavy (all maple) but well balanced with a solid sound. It had the growl of a piano bass string, something Entwistle would have loved (he was involved in the R&D but pulled out before it went into production).

I sold it because I was getting into slap-n-pop, which RDs are not well suited for. When I found a six string bass that could sound like the RD *and* work for slap-n-pop, the RD was redundant.

The article has an error BTW: it states that the RD uses a 9V battery, it actually used *TWO* 9V batteries.

TRIFECTA · Post by **TRIFECTA** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:24 pm

The Real MC wrote:I used to own one of those RD Artist basses. They were heavy (all maple) but well balanced with a solid sound. It had the growl of a piano bass string, something Entwistle would have loved (he was involved in the R&D but pulled out before it went into production).

I sold it because I was getting into slap-n-pop, which RDs are not well suited for. When I found a six string bass that could sound like the RD *and* work for slap-n-pop, the RD was redundant.

The article has an error BTW: it states that the RD uses a 9V battery, it actually used *TWO* 9V batteries.

Actually some have 2 9 volts and some only one.

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