Voyeuristic view of producing and Engineering

@?,*???&? · Post by **@?,*???&?** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:24 pm

Going on now!

http://www.totalpopstar.com/?index#winners

Producer is Debbie Gibson, engineer is Gavin MacKillop.

Talent is various. This show is live on the internet!

newfuturevintage · Post by **newfuturevintage** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:46 pm

I wanna be produced by Debbie Gibson.

kingtoad · Post by **kingtoad** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:15 pm

Brilliant. I tuned in for a couple of minutes and the A&R idiot is saying in reference to whether a question about rough mixes "I'll just record what's coming through the speakers with my ipod microphone". The engineer is trying to explain that he'll still have to do a separate mix for each singer anyway.

This is like Big Brother for geeks - watching idiots (not the producer/engineer, the rest of them) so I can feel better about myself.

@?,*???&? · Post by **@?,*???&?** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:07 am

Live vocal comping!

RefD · Post by **RefD** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:27 am

@?,*???&? wrote:Live vocal comping!

frequently ugly.

@?,*???&? · Post by **@?,*???&?** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:35 am

RefD wrote:
@?,*???&? wrote:Live vocal comping!
frequently ugly.

Joni Mitchell said it best, "...stroking the star maker machinery behind the popular song!"

RefD · Post by **RefD** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:52 am

@?,*???&? wrote:
RefD wrote:
@?,*???&? wrote:Live vocal comping!
frequently ugly.
Joni Mitchell said it best, "...stroking the star maker machinery behind the popular song!"

i'd rather go for the take and maybe splice two or three together if i have to.

otherwise, end the session and send the slackers back to rehearsal!

it's another thing entirely if you're pulling together multiple improvised bits, like sax/guitar/piano/organ/meatwhistle solos, in an effort to create something cohesive from things pulled from the ether...but not when it's vocal parts that have already been set in stone by the writer(s).

@?,*???&? · Post by **@?,*???&?** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:20 pm

Debbie Gibson does her own fader rides on the SSL!!!! Choosing to work in Absolute first, then switching to trim. Gavin smokes and the assistant engineer shuttles the Pro Tools session.

CurtZHP · Post by **CurtZHP** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:30 am

I thought it was Debra Gibson these days.

RefD · Post by **RefD** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:36 am

CurtZHP wrote:I thought it was Debra Gibson these days.

depends on how big the payday is, i guess.

plus, more ppl know her by her 80s handle and this is most likely an effort on her part to get her name out there again.

@?,*???&? · Post by **@?,*???&?** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:21 pm

What I am finding imperative tuning are a number of things:

1. Notice you rarely see the assistant engineer and you certainly never hear from ANYONE other than producer, engineer or artist. No intern mouthing off. No one other than the people responsible for making the record in the control room.

2. 12-hour days. How many of you guys work those on your sessions?

3. How long everything takes. I know this because I do this for a living, but how many people tuning in KNOW? Records take time. No bashing out total crap in a short amount of time because you don't have the money. These songs will come out.

4. There is so much to be learned here. Tuning in to this should be imperative for ANYONE wanting to work in this industry. Look at the mundane hours in the control room spent- if you are the assistant, you have flurries of activity and then alot of silent observation. Much to be learned about process though.

5. How cute Deborah Gibson still is...although I still prefer Shirley Manson!!

chris harris · Post by **chris harris** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:28 pm

@?,*???&? wrote:No bashing out total crap in a short amount of time because you don't have the money. These songs will come out.

yeah... If you wanna know how "legitimate" records get made, just tune in to TOTALPOPSTAR.COM

RefD · Post by **RefD** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:36 am

subatomic pieces wrote:
@?,*???&? wrote:No bashing out total crap in a short amount of time because you don't have the money. These songs will come out.
yeah... If you wanna know how "legitimate" records get made, just tune in to TOTALPOPSTAR.COM

well said.

my poop came out this morning, too.

imma producer!

JGriffin · Post by **JGriffin** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:52 am

RefD wrote:
my poop came out this morning, too.

imma producer!

But does it have a barcode?

rwc · Post by **rwc** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:39 am

I hope someone is documenting this as the foreward to the third tape-op book.

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