yeah, I know...thunderboy wrote: THE PIC OF NEIL PEART WHICH I'M REFRAINING FROM REPOSTING
what the hell was I thinking when I was 14 It just makes me cry aliitle deep down inside now.
oh yeah, and i response to a previous post on this topic:
Wow Jeff, I read this and I did some real soul searching. I decided to only record two toms at a time but charge them $25 per tom overdub.@?,*???&? wrote:In Brian Eno's 'Oblique Strategies' there exists a card which reads:
"You are an engineer"
Any questions? Is this not the Army you signed up for? If you are not comfortable doing this work, turn the client away and refer them to someone who is adequately equipped with both skills and gear to do the work.
I talked about it in a thread about Summit TLA-50's a couple of weeks ago. That mic setup (with that limiter, of course) was always the source of the magic drum sound in my old studio that kept clients coming back... really... there was even a old-school rocksteady/reggae/dub-type session, where the guy who mixed the record ended up only using that track in the mixes. That was a happy day for me.T-rex wrote:Yeah, I have never tried the mic pointed into the corner. I have always wanted to but just haven't gotten around to it.
OK. Now, you've got 7 tom mics, 2 on the kick drum, 2 on the snare, 3 overhead mics, a pair of room mics and a mono far room mic. That's 17 mics on the drum set. Can you detail the exact procedure to take those 17 mics and "line up the phase in the computer"? Didn't think so.vatoben wrote:Can you line up the phase in your computer or are you recording to a different format?
+211 million.subatomic pieces wrote: this whole sliding things around nonsense is ridiculous.
0-it-hz wrote:.... then it's just a big marimba.... quote]
Totally! And I respect Bozzio for what he does, but Max Roach did the same thing on a five piece, and arguably much better!
On the sliding tracks thing, I would never think to do that on this many tracks but I try to never rule anything out. I have done it on tracks that a band recorded at their rehersal space that I mixed. They were so out of phase the cymbals sounded like they were recorded through a fan with all the mics up! well maybe not that bad, but bad. So I slid a few tracks a bit and bam, much better. Engineers have done this for years by sending certain tracks through delays. It's nothing new, it's just really easy to abuse now in order to cover up poor tracking decisions or to make minute moves that generally never make a sonic difference in the bigger picture.
lolT-rex wrote:Wow Jeff, I read this and I did some real soul searching. I decided to only record two toms at a time but charge them $25 per tom overdub.@?,*???&? wrote:In Brian Eno's 'Oblique Strategies' there exists a card which reads:
"You are an engineer"
Any questions? Is this not the Army you signed up for? If you are not comfortable doing this work, turn the client away and refer them to someone who is adequately equipped with both skills and gear to do the work.
Wait wait, that's not what I did, I was just joshing you. I actually told them I would not only record them but review them for an additional fee. Yes they would have to pay for a review, but it would be sure to increase their visibility and bookings because my opinion is so highly regarded.
No, I am just joking. In reality I found a Berhinger AD/DA converter in the trash, recapped it and used it for the additional inputs because my RME converters didn't have enough channels. The recapping magically made the toms all in phase AND sound like Green Day drum samples.
I apologize to you guys, I'm lying. Instead of all that, I just started throwing out random Oblique Strategy quotes. I did this so they would think I was so smart, that they were beneath working with me and would slither away in shame. Go me!!
Wait, wait wait I am sorry. In all seriousness, I did none of that because I was just visited by my future self. He said, "I just wanted to let you know that you did a steller job on that demo."
I said, "Really? Thanks! What did I do?"
"What it took, because you're an engineer."
I thought that was really cool so I charged him $35 for the advice. He looked kind of pissed, but seriously I don't need these amateurs coming here from the future, bothering me all the time. Geez. . .
(apologies to anyone who haven't been around the TOMB long enough to get some of these @?,*???&? references.)
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