I think I've found "the space"
I think I've found "the space"
The whole space is a detached building in an alley, in a residential area. It has brick walls, 8" thick concrete slab floor, but the ceiling is sketchy - exposed joists and at least four skylights (that I recall). Its around 30x40' altogether.
I'd love to keep as much of the exposed brick as possible... I'm thinking of doubling up the drywall on the one non-brick wall, sealing up any holes in the brick walls, packing the ceiling joists with insulation and dropping a drywall ceiling with resilient channel, and doubling up the glass in the skylights (new panes sealed airtight to the new drywall ceiling). Also doubling up the panes on the old windows (pictured)
Do you think this will be enough? Its a very quiet area, so keeping out traffic noise, etc, is not an issue... more an issue of me keeping mine IN so I can keep working into the night.
I haven't figured out where, how, or if I want to divide the control room, live room, and kitchen areas. I'd be living here too... the smaller room pictured is a finished bathroom and the larger of the two small rooms is a boiler room, on top of which I plan to build a sleeping loft (as pictured). Any ideas for that would be appreciated too, but I'm mainly looking for advice wrt the soundproofing. I'll deal with acoustic treatment later. Thanks in advance...
-Mike
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OH MAN that looks awesome.
Who cares about the drywall! let the neighbors enjoy the pounding double bass at 3 am....
Chris
Who cares about the drywall! let the neighbors enjoy the pounding double bass at 3 am....
Chris
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Nice space, man.
First thing you want to do is get Rod Gervais' book, Home Recording Studio: Build It Like The Pros.
But you have the right idea, what you are talking about will help. Ideally, you'd do room-in-room construction, with 2-leaf double walls and ceilings, but your approach could work.
Remember soundproofing is about mass, airtightness, and proper construction techniques.
First thing you want to do is get Rod Gervais' book, Home Recording Studio: Build It Like The Pros.
But you have the right idea, what you are talking about will help. Ideally, you'd do room-in-room construction, with 2-leaf double walls and ceilings, but your approach could work.
Remember soundproofing is about mass, airtightness, and proper construction techniques.
Ceiling is already not great for heat, the landlord has told me, so I must assume its bad for sound too. So fixing up the ceiling is a must...RefD wrote:as for the ceiling: if it doesn't leak and keeps the heat in during winter and the cool in during summer, you're pretty much golden...maybe hang some clouds?
my opinion.
I have read a good deal of that Rod G book, so I know the deal regarding wall and ceiling construction.
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You're keeping the hook & chain...right?
That place looks very cool BTW. Good luck on putting it together.
That place looks very cool BTW. Good luck on putting it together.
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Yeah, that hook and chain has to stay.
It's a tough call on what to do about the walls. On one hand, you could go the standard route and build the room within a room thing and probably be soundproof enough for whatever, but then you'd lose all that brick, which I would personally find inspirational to music making, especially with all that foliage outside. I mean, man, just looking at that pic makes me want to be there making music right now!
What about building out half of it as a sound insulated room? That half would still be pretty big so you could get good open drum sounds there. Then leave the other half as your CR/living space/quiet instruments zone? I dunno... that would be my initial instinct, but your priorities are probably different than mine.
Sweet space, though. Hope you figure out a way to make it work. Good luck!
It's a tough call on what to do about the walls. On one hand, you could go the standard route and build the room within a room thing and probably be soundproof enough for whatever, but then you'd lose all that brick, which I would personally find inspirational to music making, especially with all that foliage outside. I mean, man, just looking at that pic makes me want to be there making music right now!
What about building out half of it as a sound insulated room? That half would still be pretty big so you could get good open drum sounds there. Then leave the other half as your CR/living space/quiet instruments zone? I dunno... that would be my initial instinct, but your priorities are probably different than mine.
Sweet space, though. Hope you figure out a way to make it work. Good luck!
Hey joninc,joninc wrote:hey i just realized you recorded an album that i love. kepler "attic salt" - that is a great record. did you do that at the current space?
We didn't record that, but my partner Ryan mastered it. Its a fantastic record! It was recorded by Dave Draves at his studio in Ottawa, Little Bullhorn. If you haven't already, check out "Tusks", Samir's new band... my old band played a few shows/ shared members with them here in Toronto and they're great too.
Thanks all for the encouragement and advise. I'm planning on living there, yep. I can't wait to get started! But first I have to talk to the landlord and finish up a design and pay last months rent and all that stuff.
-Mike
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