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Metallica / Loudness Wars

Post by akg414 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:10 pm

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Post by ctmsound » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:20 pm

What's with the dot drawing of rick rubin? haha. They didn't have a file photo.

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Post by akg414 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:31 pm

ctmsound wrote:What's with the dot drawing of rick rubin? haha. They didn't have a file photo.
I thought is was a picture of some ancient explorer, or philosopher, or ancient-Mariner!!

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Post by akg414 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:35 pm

The loudness war began heating up around the time CDs gained popularity, in the early 1980s. Guns N' Roses' "Appetite for Destruction" upped the ante in 1987, as did Metallica's 1991 "Black Album" and then the Red Hot Chili Peppers' "Californication" in 1999.


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Post by dwelle » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:37 pm

the wall street journal never uses photos, always those dot illustrations...

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Metallicas new album is to Loud blame Ipods

Post by jckinnick » Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:49 pm

I found this story on Gawker

http://gawker.com/5054672/metallicas-ne ... pods-fault

Metallica's New Album: Too Loud; iPod's Fault

Everyone knows that audio quality has gone down the tubes since people stopped listening to vinyl records. Fans are hating the metal band's new album, reports the WSJ. They're "complaining that 'Death Magnetic' has a thin, brittle sound that's the result of the band's attempts in the studio to make it as loud as possible." See, everyone's trying to make their music sound louder so that it sounds better on iPods. The result is that details get erased and it all sounds like crap.

"To make recorded music seem louder, engineers must reduce the "dynamic range," minimizing the difference between the soft and loud parts and creating a tidal wave of aural blandness...Ted Jensen, the album's "mastering engineer," the person responsible for the sonic tweaks that translate music made in a studio into a product for mass duplication and playback by consumers. Responding to a Metallica fan's email about loudness, Mr. Jensen sent a sympathetic reply that concluded: 'Believe me, I'm not proud to be associated with this one.'

Whatever. These whiny fans are forgetting that everything Metallica has sucked since the Black album anyway.

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Post by RoyMatthews » Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:43 pm

This has absolutely, positively nothing to do with iPods. It's dick wagging and nothing else.
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Post by losthighway » Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:44 pm

Yeah, volume issues and dynamic range are pretty much the same on Ipods. That and you can listen to wav files on ipods if you want, which makes more sense as their hard-drives keep getting bigger.

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Post by RoyMatthews » Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:46 pm

I mean compare an iPod to a $10 knockoff walkman with Master of Puppets on cassette.
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Post by Smitty » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:41 pm

i thought the loudness wars started when everybody wanted their song to be loudest on the radio? is that an urban legend?
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Post by Mane1234 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:00 pm

Two separate threads about Metallica.....Must be a slow day in music news....
Of course I've had it in the ear before.....

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Re: Metallicas new album is to Loud blame Ipods

Post by tunesbybill » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:20 pm

jckinnick wrote: Whatever. These whiny fans are forgetting that everything Metallica has sucked since the Black album anyway.
If you really want to be that way then "The Suck" started with The Black album, not after.

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Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:41 am

sadly, the suck really started september 27, 1986.

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Post by chris harris » Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:09 am

Maybe the "fans" who are "complaining" should reconsider listening to the most corporate rock band of our time. They've sucked for so long now. Anybody who buys a Metallica Corp. CD after seeing that doc about their studio therapy sessions is a fucking fool who doesn't deserve my sympathy.

It's almost insulting that these mouth breathing sheep are JUST NOW noticing that these corporate CDs sound like shit.

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Post by Patrick McAnulty » Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:44 am

subatomic pieces wrote:...seeing that doc about their studio therapy sessions is a fucking fool who doesn't deserve my sympathy...
this I NEED to see.
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