kick a dead horse: McCartney bass
the few shots i've seen of him playing bass for those sessions were the Ric bass with metal strings, not nylon tape-wound.Dr Rubberfunk wrote:Rotosound make a big deal about how 'Tru Bass' black nylon strings were used on Abbey Road, which I guess they wouldn't do if there wasn't some truth behind it. I got a set for my short scale Tokai EB copy and they certainly have the macca thunk.RefD wrote:flat-wound strings were common back then, so that may have been a factor.
I haven't stumped up for the Beatles book yet (and now the ? is falling against the $ - oh noes!! ) so I don't know if the Tru Bass strings get a mention in there ...
I read somewhere else that La Bella strings were likely to be Sir Paul's more usual choice back in the day, and I see La Bella now make a set specifically recommended for the Hofner 'Beatle' bass: http://www.juststrings.com/labellaelect ... ofner.html - but also make a black nylon set too .... just to confuse matters further
it's entirely possible they were used at some point, but some of the more rockin' sounds were definitely not nylon.
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RefD wrote:he's been quoted as saying he uses "long, shiny ones".
McCartney (and, when he was alive, Lennon) always seem to go a little too far with the "I don't know what kind of gear I use" act.
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McCartney didn't seem to be like that on that special he did in 2006 at Abbey Road studio 2, however.dwlb wrote:RefD wrote:he's been quoted as saying he uses "long, shiny ones".
McCartney (and, when he was alive, Lennon) always seem to go a little too far with the "I don't know what kind of gear I use" act.
in fact, (for him) he bordered on gear nerd territory when it came to demonstrating the the Studer (?) 4-track and the Mellotron.
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Which is what tipped me off that he was faking it.RefD wrote:McCartney didn't seem to be like that on that special he did in 2006 at Abbey Road studio 2, however.dwlb wrote:RefD wrote:he's been quoted as saying he uses "long, shiny ones".
McCartney (and, when he was alive, Lennon) always seem to go a little too far with the "I don't know what kind of gear I use" act.
in fact, (for him) he bordered on gear nerd territory when it came to demonstrating the the Studer (?) 4-track and the Mellotron.
"Jeweller, you've failed. Jeweller."
"Lots of people are nostalgic for analog. I suspect they're people who never had to work with it." ? Brian Eno
All the DWLB music is at http://dwlb.bandcamp.com/
"Lots of people are nostalgic for analog. I suspect they're people who never had to work with it." ? Brian Eno
All the DWLB music is at http://dwlb.bandcamp.com/
well, consider he came up at a time when getting a good sound was a big secret and everyone guarded their methods very closely.dwlb wrote:Which is what tipped me off that he was faking it.RefD wrote:McCartney didn't seem to be like that on that special he did in 2006 at Abbey Road studio 2, however.dwlb wrote:RefD wrote:he's been quoted as saying he uses "long, shiny ones".
McCartney (and, when he was alive, Lennon) always seem to go a little too far with the "I don't know what kind of gear I use" act.
in fact, (for him) he bordered on gear nerd territory when it came to demonstrating the the Studer (?) 4-track and the Mellotron.
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flatwounds definitely. I think a Rick bass was used a lot more than everyone let on, although I haven't read the Beatles recordin book. Don't forget that a sweet melodic bass line will interact differently with the mix compared to a boring line. I think they were aiming at the Motown sound, both melodically and tonally, so the bass tends to have its own little pocket, and doesn't fight with the bass/snare, knowing when NOT to play especially. Although McCartney did tend to wank a little, but so did George with his Indian music and John...oh John.
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flatwounds definitely. I think a Rick bass was used a lot more than everyone let on, although I haven't read the Beatles recordin book. Don't forget that a sweet melodic bass line will interact differently with the mix compared to a boring line. I think they were aiming at the Motown sound, both melodically and tonally, so the bass tends to have its own little pocket, and doesn't fight with the bass/snare, knowing when NOT to play especially. Although McCartney did tend to wank a little, but so did George with his Indian music and John...oh John.
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The style of play is 90% of it.
Sure - to sound exactly like it you need exactly the same gear - but who wants that?
Macca was influenced a lot by Karol Kaye, and you can hear this on Pet Sounds. She used a Fender, with a foam mute, but mainly played with a pick with lots of controlled palm mute, and often used melodic figurations in the upper registers - or used notes in thier higher positions - sometimes they cut through better -
I found the Danelectro DC bass to be an excelent replacement for a hofner - if you play this with pick and palm mute its instant sixties.
I had to do a lot of shopping to get a Fender with a similar sound - but found that the vintage re-issues do the trick - but mainly its practice using heavy picking with controlled palm muting to control note lengths - and heavy compression - as mentioned above.
Its worth getting tabs - just to see what he is doing.
Sure its can get a little sweet, but a world away from todays 'dissapearing basslines under a wall of srtummed fuzz'
Sure - to sound exactly like it you need exactly the same gear - but who wants that?
Macca was influenced a lot by Karol Kaye, and you can hear this on Pet Sounds. She used a Fender, with a foam mute, but mainly played with a pick with lots of controlled palm mute, and often used melodic figurations in the upper registers - or used notes in thier higher positions - sometimes they cut through better -
I found the Danelectro DC bass to be an excelent replacement for a hofner - if you play this with pick and palm mute its instant sixties.
I had to do a lot of shopping to get a Fender with a similar sound - but found that the vintage re-issues do the trick - but mainly its practice using heavy picking with controlled palm muting to control note lengths - and heavy compression - as mentioned above.
Its worth getting tabs - just to see what he is doing.
Sure its can get a little sweet, but a world away from todays 'dissapearing basslines under a wall of srtummed fuzz'
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