Which Would You Use On Flr Tom?

akg414 · Post by **akg414** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:52 am

Audio Technica 20/20 - or RE20 ??

Recording some drums tomorrow and this will be my setup...

Top/Side (Glyn Johns Overheads): AKG414
Snare Top: Sennheiser 441
Snare Bottom: SM57
(2) Rack Toms: Sennheiser 421
Kick Drum: AKG D12 (and) Audio Technica 20/20 some distance back
Floor Tom: Audio Technica 20/20 (or) EV RE-20

Jeff White · Post by **Jeff White** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:24 am

Put them both up there and see what happens!

I'd personally go for the RE20.

Or put the RE20 in the kick and use the D12 for the floor tom.

I just recorded drums for my friends' next record. Here is what we used:

http://messageboard.tapeop.com/viewtopi ... 768#517768

Jeff

akg414 · Post by **akg414** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:31 am

ipressrecord wrote:Put them both up there and see what happens!

I'd personally go for the RE20.

Or put the RE20 in the kick and use the D12 for the floor tom.

I just recorded drums for my friends' next record. Here is what we used:

http://messageboard.tapeop.com/viewtopi ... 768#517768

Jeff

Jeff - any raw drum tracks you can post - I'd love to hear your configuration...

MoreSpaceEcho · Post by **MoreSpaceEcho** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:32 am

dude just put the freakin' mics on the drum and pick the one that sounds better.

akg414 · Post by **akg414** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:38 am

MoreSpaceEcho wrote:dude just put the freakin' mics on the drum and pick the one that sounds better.

Now-now Scott...

Brett Siler · Post by **Brett Siler** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:01 pm

Do a little pre test today and try them both out on just the floor tom. I can't recommend either because I pretty much use Oktava 012's exclusively for toms... and I don't own those mics..

Jeff White · Post by **Jeff White** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:09 pm

bradjacob wrote:
Jeff - any raw drum tracks you can post - I'd love to hear your configuration...

Can't. I just engineered the basics, and my job is done. I'll ask Mike for some RAW tracks after the holidaze and see if I can post some stuff, though.

Jeff

cgarges · Post by **cgarges** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:19 pm

Put one up. If it doesn't sound good, put the other one up. If it doesn't sound good, start over by retuning or placing the mics elsewhere. That's what I'd do.

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

MoreSpaceEcho · Post by **MoreSpaceEcho** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:24 pm

hey brad i'm really not trying to be a jerk, although i'm sure i sound like one, but...

what is the point of asking a bunch of anonymous strangers (whose tastes you have no idea of) which mic to use in a certain situation, when none of us have any idea:
what kind of drum
what size
what heads are on it
how they're tuned
what the room is like
where the drums are in the room
how the drummer is hitting them
what style of music
what role the drums play in the arrangement
how you like things to sound
how the band likes things to sound
etc

and even if we DID know all that stuff, and you DID know what our tastes are, in the time it took to write the initial post and then check back to see if anyone replied you could've easily just put both mics on the drum, recorded a bit, and then made a choice based on how YOU felt they sounded on playback. just like a billion people did before they had the 'benefit' of teh interwebs.

trodden · Post by **trodden** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:04 pm

MoreSpaceEcho wrote:hey brad i'm really not trying to be a jerk, although i'm sure i sound like one, but...

what is the point of asking a bunch of anonymous strangers (whose tastes you have no idea of) which mic to use in a certain situation, when none of us have any idea:
what kind of drum
what size
what heads are on it
how they're tuned
what the room is like
where the drums are in the room
how the drummer is hitting them
what style of music
what role the drums play in the arrangement
how you like things to sound
how the band likes things to sound
etc

and even if we DID know all that stuff, and you DID know what our tastes are, in the time it took to write the initial post and then check back to see if anyone replied you could've easily just put both mics on the drum, recorded a bit, and then made a choice based on how YOU felt they sounded on playback. just like a billion people did before they had the 'benefit' of teh interwebs.

careful dude, some one will call you a dick in a PM.

firesine · Post by **firesine** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:24 pm

AT 20/20 on top and RE 20 on the bottom head. THABOOOM!

b3groover · Post by **b3groover** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:44 pm

If you're doing a Glynn Johns setup, you really shouldn't need a floor tom mic (or any tom mic). But I'd try both and see which one sounds better not just by itself but with the other mics open.

TSTW · Post by **TSTW** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:32 am

ipressrecord wrote:Put them both up there and see what happens!

I'd personally go for the RE20.

Or put the RE20 in the kick and use the D12 for the floor tom.

I just recorded drums for my friends' next record. Here is what we used:

http://messageboard.tapeop.com/viewtopi ... 768#517768

Jeff

As has been stated by many other people, try different techniques, but i would say that would be my 'go to method'

rwc · Post by **rwc** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:40 am

bradjacob wrote:
MoreSpaceEcho wrote:dude just put the freakin' mics on the drum and pick the one that sounds better.
Now-now Scott...

quit sounding so sensible.

akg414 · Post by **akg414** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:44 am

rwc wrote:
bradjacob wrote:
MoreSpaceEcho wrote:dude just put the freakin' mics on the drum and pick the one that sounds better.
Now-now Scott...
quit sounding so sensible.

Now, now....

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