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Reamp box that will split instrument level signal as well

Post by Slider » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:27 am

I'm looking for a reamp type box that will also let me split an instrument level signal to two amps with no hum. Any out there besides the JD7?
The X-amp is so close, except it doesn't seem to have an instrument level input.

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Post by farview » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:04 pm

Why do you need an instrument input? A reamp box is for taking a line level signal and turning it into an instrument level signal. There is no instrument input on a reamp.

Do you want a reamp box or a splitter box? Radial makes one of those as well.

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Post by Slider » Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:40 pm

I want both options in one box.
It looks like I'll need to buy separately though.

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Post by farview » Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:39 pm

The JD7 is the only one that I know of. It is overkill, I don't know why they don't make something with one or two inputs.

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Re: Reamp box that will split instrument level signal as wel

Post by antilog » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:28 pm

Slider wrote:I'm looking for a reamp type box that will also let me split an instrument level signal to two amps with no hum. Any out there besides the JD7?
The X-amp is so close, except it doesn't seem to have an instrument level input.
Exactly what features are you looking for? guitar + linelevel > multi amps, or guitar > multiple amps + line level?

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Post by Slider » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:25 pm

farview wrote:The JD7 is the only one that I know of. It is overkill, I don't know why they don't make something with one or two inputs.
That's what I was thinking too.
A smaller version of the JD7 would be perfect.
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Post by llmonty » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:52 am

I use the Little Labs PCP precisely for this. Can split between 3 amps. I love that thing so freakin much. Just an awesome studio tool. And for reamping you can send any 3 line signals to any 3 amps - http://www.littlelabs.com/pcp.html

It has ground lift, phase reverse and a level control, DI, mult, can drive long cable runs. Just a swiss army tool.

There is also a blurb of Jonathan's site about design difference of the JD7 and the PCP (use of stock transformers and a drag control).

New these are more $$$ than the Radial, but I got mine used for $550 i believe. There is one on ebay now for $770, which to me is too high, but includes the rack ears.

In comparing the 2 (not based on sound as I haven't heard a JD7):
-the PCP has more reamp flexibility given the 3 line outs, vs. 1 for JD7
-for tracking the JD7 seems to be more flexible, allowing to switch between 2 guitars, 7 amps, an effects loop, vs. 1 guitar, 3 amps and no effects loops. But in practice, the PCP is still great for tracking, and it made me make choices between the 5-6 amps we have on hand, and 5-6 guitars.
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Post by Jeff White » Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:56 am

X-amp and direct box?
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Post by Slider » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:50 am

ipressrecord wrote:X-amp and direct box?
It's looking like x-amp and an instrument splitter is my best bet.

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Post by antilog » Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:32 pm

Cheaper than an xamp and does splitting too

http://www.littlelabs.com/redeye.html
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Post by Slider » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:00 pm

antilog wrote:Cheaper than an xamp and does splitting too

http://www.littlelabs.com/redeye.html
Hey that looks nice! Looking into it further. Thanks

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Post by Slider » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:03 pm

llmonty wrote:I use the Little Labs PCP precisely for this. Can split between 3 amps. I love that thing so freakin much. Just an awesome studio tool. And for reamping you can send any 3 line signals to any 3 amps - http://www.littlelabs.com/pcp.html
That thing is nuts!
really cool, although not cheap. Thanks for the tip.

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Post by b3groover » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:58 pm

Slider wrote:
antilog wrote:Cheaper than an xamp and does splitting too

http://www.littlelabs.com/redeye.html
Hey that looks nice! Looking into it further. Thanks
The Redeye is very cool, but you'll need two to drive two amps.

The PCP is awesome.
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Post by Jeff White » Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:05 am

The X-Amp will drive two amps. Put a direct box in front of it.

Instrument --> Hi-Z --> DI (or preamp with DI)--> Line Level --> X-Amp --> 2 Amps.

Following the critically acclaimed Radial JD7 Injector, the X-Amp employs a unique Class-A circuit design that has been optimized for use with guitars. Using the X-Amp is easy: One would, for instance, record a dry track using a high quality direct box, then send this track from the recorder to the X-Amp and then to either guitar amps, effect pedals or combinations thereof.

Recording using the X-Amp has many benefits: Once the basic track has been recorded, replacing or adding tracks can be done well after the session player has gone home. This eliminates tiresome repetition and assures a fresh vibrant performance on the final recording. Furthermore, by driving two amps at the same time, new sounds and textures can be created allowing the engineer - producer to make artistic decisions as the recording progresses.

Features include balanced line level input with LED peak indicator and level control, Class-A circuit topology for optimal reach and frequency response, direct and isolated guitar amplifier outputs, 180? polarity reverse to bring both amps into phase, and dual ground lift options for noise-free operation.

As with all Radial products, the X-Amp is built like a tank to provide years of trouble-free performance. A welded I-beam internal skeleton provides a separate housing for maximum protection against external forces, which may cause stress on the PC board assembly while the outside bookend cover provides a protective zone for the switches, potentiometer and connectors. A full bottom no-slip pad performs double duty by keeping the X-Amp from sliding around when placed on a vibrating amplifier while also providing electrical and mechanical isolation.

Features
Active re-amping device

100% Class-A signal path

Two outputs to drive two amps

Input level overload LED indicator

Isolated output eliminates ground loops

Variable output level control
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Post by Slider » Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:27 pm

ipressrecord wrote:The X-Amp will drive two amps. Put a direct box in front of it.

Instrument --> Hi-Z --> DI (or preamp with DI)--> Line Level --> X-Amp --> 2 Amps.


Brilliant!
Should work perfect.

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