Are Loops for Candy Asses?

[casey campbell]

i like looping!

[apropos of nothing]

Real men can count in hex and make their loops on an Ensoniq Mirage.

If you can do it blind, you can do it with the lights on too. Its hard to get the *particular flavor* of aliasing present on the Mirage with other gear.

[dsw]

Did I mention I'm not gay?

methinks thou dost protest too much-eth.

*tries to think of clever pun on fruity loops and candy-ass*

*gives up*

[Aquaman]

I perform all of my loops in real-time, by attempting to play the same thing as I did in the last 4 bars. It mostly works out great.

[RefD]

Real men can count in hex and make their loops on an Ensoniq Mirage.

If you can do it blind, you can do it with the lights on too. Its hard to get the *particular flavor* of aliasing present on the Mirage with other gear.

the filters certainly help the sound.

[FBH]

Canned loops can be a really fantastic catalyst for creation. I don't know that they belong in finished recordings (unless they sound right for whatever reason), but the ability to bang out a drum track in 5 minutes or less can be really helpful when you know you want to arrange a 3-minute pop tune with a verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus structure and you just want to get on with it. It may not be the most thoughtful way to work, but you can certainly create a bass line, guitar riff and melody over a canned drum loop. Since there is no tape to waste, I just start the recording and noodle around until something catches my ear.

[NeglectedFred]

Canned loops can be a really fantastic catalyst for creation. I don't know that they belong in finished recordings (unless they sound right for whatever reason), but the ability to bang out a drum track in 5 minutes or less can be really helpful when you know you want to arrange a 3-minute pop tune with a verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus structure and you just want to get on with it. It may not be the most thoughtful way to work, but you can certainly create a bass line, guitar riff and melody over a canned drum loop. Since there is no tape to waste, I just start the recording and noodle around until something catches my ear.

Canned Schmanned... I agree about them being good for creation on an inspirational level, but so can playing along to an album.

If it's just a temporary placeholder, like a click track, there's nothing wrong with that - but why not just create a few generic beats yourself - then they're yours? One day with a drum kit can be an eternity of 'Your drum sound'.

Everybody's got thier line on a graph that seperates original from rip off, mine goes here: if it's a phrase - and you didn't create the placement of the notes within it - you're taking credit for someone elses work. Of course there are a billion samples of chords and single note pads, and I wouldn't gripe if somone were to use them by transposing and sequencing them around to fit into the music they wrote (a substitute for lack of a synth).

I don't think I could use someone elses drum samples, even individual hits, to sequence into my own phrases - I wouldn't want anyone to steel the drums sounds I captured - but for me, part of the pride comes in the actual recording of the drums and creating 'MY' sound.

[;ivlunsdystf]

I perform all of my loops in real-time, by attempting to play the same thing as I did in the last 4 bars. It mostly works out great.

[Mikey P]

don't forget the BBC radiophonic workshop.

here's delia derbyshire beat-matching reel-to-reel tape loops like it's the most natural thing in the world.

[FBH]

Canned loops can be a really fantastic catalyst for creation. I don't know that they belong in finished recordings (unless they sound right for whatever reason), but the ability to bang out a drum track in 5 minutes or less can be really helpful when you know you want to arrange a 3-minute pop tune with a verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus structure and you just want to get on with it. It may not be the most thoughtful way to work, but you can certainly create a bass line, guitar riff and melody over a canned drum loop. Since there is no tape to waste, I just start the recording and noodle around until something catches my ear.

Canned Schmanned... I agree about them being good for creation on an inspirational level, but so can playing along to an album.

If it's just a temporary placeholder, like a click track, there's nothing wrong with that - but why not just create a few generic beats yourself - then they're yours? One day with a drum kit can be an eternity of 'Your drum sound'.

Everybody's got thier line on a graph that seperates original from rip off, mine goes here: if it's a phrase - and you didn't create the placement of the notes within it - you're taking credit for someone elses work. Of course there are a billion samples of chords and single note pads, and I wouldn't gripe if somone were to use them by transposing and sequencing them around to fit into the music they wrote (a substitute for lack of a synth).

I don't think I could use someone elses drum samples, even individual hits, to sequence into my own phrases - I wouldn't want anyone to steel the drums sounds I captured - but for me, part of the pride comes in the actual recording of the drums and creating 'MY' sound.

It's hardly "stealing" when you buy loops from someone like BetaMonkey.

Regardless, I was talking on an "inspirational level".

[Judas Jetski]

here's delia derbyshire beat-matching reel-to-reel tape loops like it's the most natural thing in the world.

W o w ....

She's . . . . . . p e r f e c t ....

*sigh*

[;ivlunsdystf]

don't forget the BBC radiophonic workshop.

here's delia derbyshire beat-matching reel-to-reel tape loops like it's the most natural thing in the world.

That really is the ultimate in audio pr0n.

[RefD]

don't forget the BBC radiophonic workshop.

here's delia derbyshire beat-matching reel-to-reel tape loops like it's the most natural thing in the world.

That really is the ultimate in audio pr0n.

Delia Derbyshire = RAWR!

i have that album and it's pretty much uniformly great.

[Mikey P]

have you heard white noise? that's pretty great too.

yeah, the combination of mad skillz, english teeth and accent, and that almost erotic languidity in both the cadences of her voice and the way her hand dangles from the wrist are, frankly, captivating. total time-machine crush.

don't forget the BBC radiophonic workshop.

here's delia derbyshire beat-matching reel-to-reel tape loops like it's the most natural thing in the world.

That really is the ultimate in audio pr0n.

Delia Derbyshire = RAWR!

i have that album and it's pretty much uniformly great.

[boriscrispin]

Oh lovely & awesome at the same time. rare.
A million miles away from clicking through a folder entitled 'Funky Hip-Hop 140bpm'.

And there are moving parts, so it's music