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Just got an M160, where would you use on drums

Post by pedrohead » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:37 am

So I just received my brand new M160 yesterday. Looking forward to getting into it with electric/acoustic guitars, etc. but was curious on how you like to use it on drums.

I only have one (so no stereo overhead or M/S suggestions) where do you get good mileage out of an M160 in drum recordings? Thanks.

Here's what I'm using on drums now as a guide:

Kick in: Senn E602
Kick out: Soundeluxe U195
SN top: Beyer M210
SN btm: Oktava mk12
Toms: Audix D2 x2
Stereo OH: At 40407 x2
Hi hat: Oktava mk12
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Post by chris harris » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:06 pm

I'd try it as a mono overhead.
Then, try it as a mono room mic.
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Post by losthighway » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:39 pm

+1 on mono room mic
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Post by Ryan Silva » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:19 pm

Maybe try it right above the kick drum with the null facing towards the snare drum. Then let me know how it worked out, never tried it myself. :wink:
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Post by JohnDavisNYC » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:28 pm

i love that mic about 4 or 5 feet in front of the kit, maybe 2 feet off the ground, a few feet over towards the floor tom side, so it is kind of aiming between the floor tom and the kick... like it's looking through at the drummer's shin.

hope that makes sense.

sound good with some compression, but it is also good dry.

depends on the set, room, drummer, but that is a regular favourite for me.

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Post by KennyLusk » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:59 am

toaster3000 wrote:i love that mic about 4 or 5 feet in front of the kit, maybe 2 feet off the ground, a few feet over towards the floor tom side, so it is kind of aiming between the floor tom and the kick... like it's looking through at the drummer's shin.

hope that makes sense.

sound good with some compression, but it is also good dry.

depends on the set, room, drummer, but that is a regular favourite for me.

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Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:15 am

i really it 1-2 feet in front of the kick, dead center, about snare height. or as a mono overhead. or as a side mic on snare if i'm not wailing on the thing. nice on rack tom as well. also good as a room mic....

i could make a whole record with only 160s. it would sound kinda weird, but it'd be easy on the ears, that's for sure.
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Post by PrettyMusic » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:12 pm

MoreSpaceEcho wrote:i could make a whole record with only 160s. it would sound kinda weird, but it'd be easy on the ears, that's for sure.
So true.
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Post by decocco » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:49 pm

Sometimes the m160 is super sexy on snare. You gotta keep it out of the way of drum sticks, cause a stick hit can KILL an m160.
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Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:07 pm

yeah it has a really agreeable crunch on snare...i need more of them. i only have one and i'm so fond of it in front of the kit that's usually where it stays.
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Post by joninc » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:57 am

great on hi hat and snare!
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Post by kingtoad » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:01 am

I've always found it to give great "focus" as a mono OH, aimed down at the snare over the drummer's shoulder. On longer sessions I'll often put up an m160 in this position in addition to stereo overheads and use the most appropriate option for the song at mixing.
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Post by johnny7 » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:35 pm

Gonna have to agree with everyone else here. Mono OH out in front of the kit. I recorded a 3 piece pop band this weekend, employing that technique. The m160 squashed and mixed in with the stereo OH mics sounded fantastic!


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Post by GetHimEatHim » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:12 am

I recently recorded a band using an M160 behind the drummer's right shoulder, facing across the kit from the floor tom side. It sounds GREAT.
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