a little final grit.

brightpavilions · Post by **brightpavilions** » Wed May 06, 2009 10:32 pm

My background in recording my bands when I'm on the controls comes in 4 & 8 track cassettes. When i upgraded from the 8 track years ago I went digital. So I've been PT LE ever since.

My question is now, I've got a solid recording of my band that I feel really good about. But there's always that "pristine-ness" that I want to tone down a bit. You know, add a bit of that cassette garbage back in.

The PSP Vintage Warmer plug has helped but I was wondering if anyone had any ideas what I could apply/add/manipulate to a final mix, prior to mastering that could dirty it up a bit. Yes, I'm trying to incorporate the some of the lo-fi parts of the cassette that I loved into the digital realm that I've come to love as well.

Thanks!

chris harris · Post by **chris harris** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:02 pm

Massey Tape Head

thompsongs · Post by **thompsongs** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:15 pm

spit the 2 back to a cassette?

uncle bastard · Post by **uncle bastard** » Thu May 07, 2009 1:15 am

Have a look at Michaels Kingston's RetroBand. It's designed to add dirt to a signal.

brightpavilions · Post by **brightpavilions** » Thu May 07, 2009 7:28 am

subatomic pieces wrote:Massey Tape Head

Oh I love this plug-in, but I don't think it can be added to a Master fader?

brightpavilions · Post by **brightpavilions** » Thu May 07, 2009 7:30 am

uncle bastard wrote:Have a look at Michaels Kingston's RetroBand. It's designed to add dirt to a signal.

It's interesting but it's only available as VST.

decocco · Post by **decocco** » Thu May 07, 2009 10:37 am

spit the 2 back to a cassette?

I second this. Total dirt.

jashwa · Post by **jashwa** » Thu May 07, 2009 2:13 pm

you can do that crinkling tape effect to add flutter and wow and mix that back into the signal. there is also that lo-fi plug in for pro tools 8, but i don't have that yet so i dont know. there is also that vinyl plug in that is free and you can add rumble and all the things that people hated about vinyl back when it was the only playback medium. i cant remember where i read about that first thing i mentioned.. ill look it up and repost. im way spaced right now.
the massey tape head plug is good. the crinkling tape is what i wuld say though cuase its more involved. the best tasting tomatoes are the ones you labor over.

jashwa · Post by **jashwa** » Thu May 07, 2009 2:27 pm

Create a hardware send.
send it to a "crinkled tape." (crinkle that tape!)
Bring it back onto a record enabled track.
Bring the level of that track up to the level you want in the song. This was originally put however many milliseconds you want after so that its a funky delay effect, but you dont have to do that.

Works Cited:
Hirsch, Scott, and Steve Heithecker. Pro Tools 7 Session Secrets. Indianapolis: Wiley Publishing, 2006.

Jitters · Post by **Jitters** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:55 am

brightpavilions wrote:
subatomic pieces wrote:Massey Tape Head
Oh I love this plug-in, but I don't think it can be added to a Master fader?

I used to think that too, but I've found that if you add it before you get going and mix through it rather than trying to strap it on near the end of the mix it works out MUCH better.

Snarl 12/8 · Post by **Snarl 12/8** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:01 am

It might sound cooler to not run the entire mix through some synthetic analog thingy. You've got the digital pristineness, put the drums and vox through something gritty or grungy or everything but the vox. Or just the room mic in the bridge. I dunno, it's the year 2000?!

KennyLusk · Post by **KennyLusk** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:34 am

line the mix through a pro vla set to not compress with sovtek 12AX7's?

I find the sovtek's to add a general grittines to most anything. Microphonics baby.

@?,*???&? · Post by **@?,*???&?** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:49 am

Send me your mixes and I'll run them off 1/4" 2-track. A vintage formulation like Scotch 250 would be great.

Then have them mastered off tape by someone like Dave McNair at Masterdisk in New York.

logancircle · Post by **logancircle** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:56 am

brightpavilions wrote:
subatomic pieces wrote:Massey Tape Head
Oh I love this plug-in, but I don't think it can be added to a Master fader?

I've put Tape Head on the master fader and had great results. I usually put it right before my dither. Try it! The demo is free

KennyLusk · Post by **KennyLusk** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:44 am

@?,*???&? wrote:Send me your mixes and I'll run them off 1/4" 2-track. A vintage formulation like Scotch 250 would be great.

Then have them mastered off tape by someone like Dave McNair at Masterdisk in New York.

I would take him up on this offer if I were you, LOL. Great opportunity.

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