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The Return of Dynamic Range

Post by @?,*???&? » Thu May 28, 2009 8:10 pm

These guys look serious about what they are intending to do.

Please forward this link to all your mastering engineer buddies so they can download the dynamic range plugin:

http://dynamicrange.de/en/timetable

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Re: The Return of Dynamic Range

Post by Nick Sevilla » Thu May 28, 2009 8:25 pm

@?,*???&? wrote:These guys look serious about what they are intending to do.

Please forward this link to all your mastering engineer buddies so they can download the dynamic range plugin:

http://dynamicrange.de/en/timetable
Great idea, but they need to spell check their stuff :

"Here you find a rough strategy paper how we gone reach our goals."

Maybe better like this:

"Here you find a rough strategy paper on how we are going to reach our goals."

One thing my last college teacher told me, was that if you have mispelt words and bad language in your presentations, it goes down the tubes, no matter how good the idea is.

I hope they do reach their goal, to me, until the labels go back to recording like the old days (ie good single songs over mass Pepsi-induced crap) we're going to be stuck in loud-land.

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Post by signorMars » Thu May 28, 2009 8:44 pm

It's a German domain, so maybe it's just crummy translation. Neat idea though!
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Post by cgarges » Thu May 28, 2009 9:35 pm

It'd be great if one of those organizations can get their shit together. I've had several people I've worked with try to get their shit released with some of turnmeup.org's plan, but they just can't get the standardization together. It's about time someone stops talking and starts doing. I'll believe it when I see it, but it would be a cool thing, for sure.

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Re: The Return of Dynamic Range

Post by chuckfurok » Thu May 28, 2009 10:34 pm

noeqplease wrote:
@?,*???&? wrote:These guys look serious about what they are intending to do.

Please forward this link to all your mastering engineer buddies so they can download the dynamic range plugin:

http://dynamicrange.de/en/timetable
Great idea, but they need to spell check their stuff :

"Here you find a rough strategy paper how we gone reach our goals."

Maybe better like this:

"Here you find a rough strategy paper on how we are going to reach our goals."

One thing my last college teacher told me, was that if you have mispelt words and bad language in your presentations, it goes down the tubes, no matter how good the idea is.

I hope they do reach their goal, to me, until the labels go back to recording like the old days (ie good single songs over mass Pepsi-induced crap) we're going to be stuck in loud-land.

Cheers
Did you mean misspelt? That is either a great joke or......

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Re: The Return of Dynamic Range

Post by Snarl 12/8 » Thu May 28, 2009 11:34 pm

chuckfurok wrote:Did you mean misspelt? That is either a great joke or......
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Post by Gentleman Jim » Thu May 28, 2009 11:50 pm

That song still annoys me on two levels.

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Re: The Return of Dynamic Range

Post by solo-bration » Fri May 29, 2009 4:30 am

"it's like 10,000 dicks, when you're not even gay.
It's a Death Row contract, when you hate Dr Dre."

If you haven't heard it, check out Matt Mahaffney's (of SELF) parody "Moronic": http://www.self-centered.org/media/audi ... oronic.mp3

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Re: The Return of Dynamic Range

Post by Nick Sevilla » Fri May 29, 2009 12:23 pm

chuckfurok wrote:
noeqplease wrote:
@?,*???&? wrote:These guys look serious about what they are intending to do.

Please forward this link to all your mastering engineer buddies so they can download the dynamic range plugin:

http://dynamicrange.de/en/timetable
Great idea, but they need to spell check their stuff :

"Here you find a rough strategy paper how we gone reach our goals."

Maybe better like this:

"Here you find a rough strategy paper on how we are going to reach our goals."

One thing my last college teacher told me, was that if you have mispelt words and bad language in your presentations, it goes down the tubes, no matter how good the idea is.

I hope they do reach their goal, to me, until the labels go back to recording like the old days (ie good single songs over mass Pepsi-induced crap) we're going to be stuck in loud-land.

Cheers
Did you mean misspelt? That is either a great joke or......
See, at least someone can read English here... of course it was a joke.

I still think that as long as the people paying for making the records want LOUD, they will get LOUD records made.

Maybe in a generation or two, after this generation becomes totally deaf from so much loudness.

Cheers
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Post by dsw » Fri May 29, 2009 2:06 pm

In the Recording the Beatles book they show a DB meter in a little box that had a mic somewhere in the control room attached to it. Engineers were supposed to watch it and maintain a level that didn't go red as a way to standardize the recording levels.

Of course the Beatles and other pop acts recording at Abbey Road made every effort to keep the needle pegged at all times.

Remember the James Gang record that said on the jacket "made loud to be played loud" ?

I'm not saying over compressed modern recordings sound good, I don't like it at all, but I do think its a natural tendency that has been going on for a long time.
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Post by ott0bot » Fri May 29, 2009 3:10 pm

I saw a post about this a couple weeks back and I downloaded it. It's kinda cool and it gives you some feedback to compare your mix levels to other songs. However, if they song has already been mastered everything is pretty much in the red and the dynamic range is pretty limited on most modern songs I imported. not suprising.

I think using this to mix seems realistic, but most people simply don't want their songs so quiet, even though they sound better or have more dynamic range. I think expecting mastering engineers to use this would prove fairly difficult these days since even geting people to mix with peaks between -3 and -6 is hard enough. You'd just be shrinking what little headroom the ME's have already. Heck I hope they can make a difference cause I'd love to shed all the harsh compression and limiting, but how realistic is it to keep your peaks below -8 on a mastered album unless the artist truly understands dynamics.

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Re: The Return of Dynamic Range

Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Fri May 29, 2009 4:05 pm

am i missing something with the plug in? it's a meter. doesn't everybody have peak/rms meters already?

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Post by ;ivlunsdystf » Fri May 29, 2009 4:30 pm

'Pleasurize' must sound great when said in an authentic German accent.

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Re: The Return of Dynamic Range

Post by ott0bot » Fri May 29, 2009 4:48 pm

MoreSpaceEcho wrote:am i missing something with the plug in? it's a meter. doesn't everybody have peak/rms meters already?
Yes but it has a big green bar in the middle that turns yellow, and then red upon your dynamic range being shortened or volume being too high. It also has fancy tick marks at -8 and -14, apparently their desired dynamic range. It also gives you averages to compare your range to other recordings. I'm pretty sure the FreeG plug in also gives you and average too, but this one gives you a standard to go by therefore furthing their agenda of lowering the volume and increasing the dynamic range of recordings.

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No it's not doing anything new, but it's giving you a target to shoot for and it looks slighty different. It's more about their mission than anything.

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