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Post by niccolo gallio » Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:38 am

Ok, here's the link to download the archive containing all the 3 apps.:

http://rapidshare.com/files/357382320/E ... rel1_3.zip

Please note that they were tested only on a mac computer..
Here's the compatibility stuff:
since they are built using max/msp you may need to download the free max runtime from cycling '74:

mac version:
http://www.cycling74.com/download/Max5Runtime_41767.dmg

pc version:
http://www.cycling74.com/download/Max5Runtime_41767.zip

the first two apps (1.1 and 1.3) should work for both using the runtime, the third (1.3 FB) is a standalone app for mac only, if you're interested I can make a runtime version so that even pc users can run it.
the operating instructions are included, have fun and please let me know what do you think of it and if you have problems using it.

thanks

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Post by niccolo gallio » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:04 am

So.. anybody here have some feedback on those apps?
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Post by veermaster » Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:31 am

Hi Niccolo,
just downloaded your App.
Thanks a lot for making it available, I find it very usefull and will try to use it everyday as a training tool!
Regards, Emre

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Post by niccolo gallio » Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:37 am

You are very welcome, I'm glad you are finding it useful.
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Post by Fletcher » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:47 am

Practice a lot... eventually everything falls into place.

I will admit that doing "monitors" for live shows helped tremendously as you had to be "spot on" with what you heard was about to be a problem [and possibly cost you the gig]... but for whatever it may be worth, I found the best training for mixing was doing a lot of it and being a very harsh critic of my work.

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Post by millzners » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:28 am

The best mixing engineer I know personally mixes all the time -- live and studio albums, almost constantly. He'll go do sound and/or recording for a festival and then mix 30 live albums in 3 weeks. One day he's mixing fusion, the next folk-rock, the next hip hop. He started off just doing a single live album after a festival and worked his way up.

Mixing is a craft and by training your ears I believe you can cover some ground, but there is no substitute for mixing album after album and developing your chops. I personally am a piss poor mixing engineer -- I just fumble around until it sounds ok -- that being said I'm definitely looking into that Golden Ears thing.

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Post by Perry Grinn » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:52 am

niccolo gallio wrote:So.. anybody here have some feedback on those apps?
niccolo, I will contact you shortly. I'm going to download them tonight.

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Post by audioscience » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:13 pm

niccolo,

That program is awesome! I read that you were going to make one practicing delays, phase, etc...are you still working on that? I think you're a friggin' genius! Thanks again!

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Post by niccolo gallio » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:41 pm

Thanks for the kind words, really.
I'm no genius at all, the program is based on David Moulton's excellent ear training course Golden Ears:
http://www.moultonlabs.com/full/product01

mine is somewhat a software version..

I'll try and make some new drill this autumn.

thanks again!
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Post by audioscience » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:23 pm

Guys,
Niccolo's program is very easy to use. And the best part is that you can choose to use the pink noise generator or your own sound file to be quizzed on. It's based off of David Moulton's excellent ear training course Golden Ears . I've never used Golden Ears, but you can't get any better than a free interactive software version!

Thanks a lot Niccolo!

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Post by ricercar.record » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:40 am

there's also this book with a software program included called Audio Production and Critical Listening by Jason Corey, very similar to niccolo's with the eq testing but it also includes audio effects like compression, expansion, reverb, delay, distortion, etc. One of my teachers was showing it to me because we were talking about how Moulton Lab's Golden Ears was so expensive especially on a students budget. The program was really easy to use and gets straight to the point, quizzes you on different eq boosts and cuts or different compression attack and release times or reverb times, etc. (any variable you can change on an a plugin basically) by letting you hear the sample (and you can load your own samples) and then you attempt to match the same sound by changing your settings on your eq, compressor, reverb, delay, etc. and it tells you if you were correct or not and what the correct settings were. It was very easy to use and way cheaper than Golden Ears. I haven't read the book but I'm sure if the software is that cool it must be a great read as well.

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Post by niccolo gallio » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:18 am

there's also this book with a software program included called Audio Production and Critical Listening by Jason Corey
seems kinda cool!
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