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What's the best headphone extension solution?

Post by g_rogers » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:55 am

Given the noise constraints of my apartment, I have to do my higher-volume recording in a room at the other end of my apartment.

Any recommendation for headphone extension systems? Should I try to get a 100' patch cord to run out of an interface output and into a satellite headphone amp? Should I get several straight up headphone extension cords?

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Post by Marc Alan Goodman » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:51 am

Headphone extension cables all suck. If you have the option then use a pair of mic cables and run the headphone amp to where you need to be. In a pinch I have a couple headphone extenders from More Me. They were cheap as hell and have held up at least as well as any other ones I've ever owned.

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Post by Jeff White » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:15 am

Can you solder? The best solution that I have ever heard for headphone extenders is to simply build a 1/4" TRS male to XLR female and 1/4" TRS female to XLR male jumper set for each headphone send that you need. By doing so you can simply use any mic cable as a headphone extension cable. Once my current batch of cheap crappy extension cables crap out on me I am definitely going to go this route.

Building your own cables is one of the best skills that you can learn. It'll save you a ton of money, enable you to customize for your needs, and allow you to learn how to solder and eventually build confidence when it comes to DIY skills.

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Post by theposterkid » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:45 pm

ipressrecord wrote:Can you solder? The best solution that I have ever heard for headphone extenders is to simply build a 1/4" TRS male to XLR female and 1/4" TRS female to XLR male jumper set for each headphone send that you need. By doing so you can simply use any mic cable as a headphone extension cable. Once my current batch of cheap crappy extension cables crap out on me I am definitely going to go this route.

Building your own cables is one of the best skills that you can learn. It'll save you a ton of money, enable you to customize for your needs, and allow you to learn how to solder and eventually build confidence when it comes to DIY skills.

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Re: What's the best headphone extension solution?

Post by hiddendriveways » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:46 pm

g_rogers wrote:Given the noise constraints of my apartment, I have to do my higher-volume recording in a room at the other end of my apartment.

Any recommendation for headphone extension systems? Should I try to get a 100' patch cord to run out of an interface output and into a satellite headphone amp? Should I get several straight up headphone extension cords?

Help!
I use a headphone amp for an extension, but I don't use a 100 foot cable (that's way too far). I have a Samson C-que 8 headphone amp. It allows you to run balanced TRS for both left and right. Having a balanced connection from the DAW to the headphone amp would be preferable.

There is this thing for a 25 foot extension:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/4 ... _Male.html

Expensive, but the cheap ones always die quickly. Maybe this one is better (I've never used it).

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Post by Snarl 12/8 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:32 pm

ipressrecord wrote:Can you solder? The best solution that I have ever heard for headphone extenders is to simply build a 1/4" TRS male to XLR female and 1/4" TRS female to XLR male jumper set for each headphone send that you need. By doing so you can simply use any mic cable as a headphone extension cable. Once my current batch of cheap crappy extension cables crap out on me I am definitely going to go this route.

Building your own cables is one of the best skills that you can learn. It'll save you a ton of money, enable you to customize for your needs, and allow you to learn how to solder and eventually build confidence when it comes to DIY skills.

Redco.com is your best friend.
You actually only need to solder one end of the contraption if you use one of these:

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coming out of your headphone jack into the mic cable. Then you just need to wire up an XLR->TRS Jack adapter thingy. I did this to get headphones over to my drums in my basement and it's really working great.
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Post by vivalastblues » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:21 pm

i dont know, i bought an extension cable for $15 and it was fine.

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Post by Snarl 12/8 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:43 pm

lost blues wrote:i dont know, i bought an extension cable for $15 and it was fine.
C'mon dude, don't piss on our "over-thinking it" parade.
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Post by Jeff White » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:18 pm

Snarl 12/8 wrote:
lost blues wrote:i dont know, i bought an extension cable for $15 and it was fine.
C'mon dude, don't piss on our "over-thinking it" parade.
+1. I am always over-thinking shit.
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Post by b3groover » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:17 am

Cheap cables suck. I have about a half-dozen cheap Hosa headphone extender cables and they all suck.

Roll your own. Or as has already been stated, run 100 ft of balanced line from an output to a headphone amp.
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Post by g_rogers » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:16 am

Can you solder? The best solution that I have ever heard for headphone extenders is to simply build a 1/4" TRS male to XLR female and 1/4" TRS female to XLR male jumper set for each headphone send that you need.
Definitely going to look into the DIY solution, but in the short term, could I just use the following cables (bridged with an appropriate standard mic cable) in the manner you recommend? Cheap, too...

http://audiopile.net/products/Mic_Instr ... heet.shtml

http://audiopile.net/products/Mic_Instr ... heet.shtml

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Post by Snarl 12/8 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:19 am

g_rogers wrote:
Can you solder? The best solution that I have ever heard for headphone extenders is to simply build a 1/4" TRS male to XLR female and 1/4" TRS female to XLR male jumper set for each headphone send that you need.
Definitely going to look into the DIY solution, but in the short term, could I just use the following cables (bridged with an appropriate standard mic cable) in the manner you recommend? Cheap, too...

http://audiopile.net/products/Mic_Instr ... heet.shtml

http://audiopile.net/products/Mic_Instr ... heet.shtml
Well, you'll wind up with a (male) plug on both ends. You need a jack at the far end where the headphones need to plug in. I suppose you could find a Female to Female barrel connector, but that's starting to get a little hinky, even for my taste. Something I do sometimes, is buy something like both those cables, since they're so effing cheap and then cut the TRS end off of one and solder my jack there. That's about the minimum soldering I can see in this situation to "do it right".
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Post by Marc Alan Goodman » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:38 am

Also keep in mind that with a satellite headphone amp you'll actually be able to change the volume when you're using the headphones. Otherwise you'll have to walk all the way to the base unit. Definitely still the best option in my opinion.

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Post by g_rogers » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:00 am

Slightly off topic, but does stringing together multiple XLRs result in signal degradation? I'm not worried about the headphone mix, but for the mics I'm also going to have to either piece together several XLRs or get a 100 footer...

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Post by Snarl 12/8 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:36 am

Marc Alan Goodman wrote:Also keep in mind that with a satellite headphone amp you'll actually be able to change the volume when you're using the headphones. Otherwise you'll have to walk all the way to the base unit. Definitely still the best option in my opinion.
I agree, but more expensive if you don't have the headphone amp. Can't you do this with a normal power amp if you're insanely careful about levels? Also, you'd want an amp that took balanced ins (or some way to convert balanced to unbalanced) so you can do a balanced run for the 100ft leg of the trip.
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