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Post by Sean Sullivan » Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:30 pm

Chris...if you can get a snare to sound like the one on "Damn the Torpedos" tell me your secret.

But, I was going to say LDC on toms, not MD421s. If the drummer doesn't suck, toss up a U87s (or U67's if you're really comfortable with him) or even a 414 (less of a lose if they get whacked, I guess).

I'd like to try out a KM 86...a lot of old school engineers seem to love them but they are pretty uncommon.

Neve and Trident preamps, since Damn the Torpedos was recorded at Sound City and Cherokee.
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Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:22 pm

Sean Sullivan wrote:if you can get a snare to sound like the one on "Damn the Torpedos" tell me your secret.
pfffffffffft.

choose snare drum. large.
apply new heads. thick.
use drum key to turn lugs precisely one half turn and no more.
apply liberal amounts of duct tape to head (gaffer tape if you are a pro)
strike with 5lb trout. preferably dead.
to maximize "stan lynch" effect, play consistently 20ms behind beat.
apply heavy handed reverb.
mix louder than everything else.

EASY.

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Post by drumsound » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:12 pm

MoreSpaceEcho wrote:
Sean Sullivan wrote:if you can get a snare to sound like the one on "Damn the Torpedos" tell me your secret.
pfffffffffft.

choose snare drum. large.
apply new heads. thick.
use drum key to turn lugs precisely one half turn and no more.
apply liberal amounts of duct tape to head (gaffer tape if you are a pro)
strike with 5lb trout. preferably dead.
to maximize "stan lynch" effect, play consistently 20ms behind beat.
apply heavy handed reverb.
mix louder than everything else.

EASY.
*snort*

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Post by JGriffin » Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:22 pm

is that the Stan Lynch signature trout? Does it have the nylon tips or wood?
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Post by roscoenyc » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:37 am

rainbow, brown or brook?

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Post by lyman » Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:16 am

dwlb wrote:is that the Stan Lynch signature trout? Does it have the nylon tips or wood?
This will get you about 90% there: stan lynch sticks

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Post by cgarges » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:28 am

lyman wrote:This will get you about 90% there: stan lynch sticks
Jonathan Hall, ladies and gentlemen! Jonathan Hall!

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Post by lysander » Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:28 am

MoreSpaceEcho wrote:
Sean Sullivan wrote:if you can get a snare to sound like the one on "Damn the Torpedos" tell me your secret.
to maximize "stan lynch" effect, play consistently 20ms behind beat.
You expect a laid-back southern guy to play on top of the beat?

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Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:25 am

hey, hey, woah now. slow down. i never said anything about "on top". i'm not asking for miracles here.

on a related, slightly more serious note....i was thinking about this thread and how jimmy iovine felt that stan had a "plodding" feel to his playing. do you guys think that maybe part of the reason lynch's playing came across like that was specifically BECAUSE of that damn dead fish snare drum? i.e. the backbeat it was defining was REALLY wide...as opposed to say a stewart copeland cranked snare tight crack backbeat?

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Post by drumsound » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:27 am

MoreSpaceEcho wrote:hey, hey, woah now. slow down. i never said anything about "on top". i'm not asking for miracles here.

on a related, slightly more serious note....i was thinking about this thread and how jimmy iovine felt that stan had a "plodding" feel to his playing. do you guys think that maybe part of the reason lynch's playing came across like that was specifically BECAUSE of that damn dead fish snare drum? i.e. the backbeat it was defining was REALLY wide...as opposed to say a stewart copeland cranked snare tight crack backbeat?
I think that's a big part of it, even if Stan and/or the production team didn't plan or realize it. I notice myself doing that, playing differently based on the tuning or which snare I'm using. I'll also swap snares a lot, using tempo as a guide.

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Post by lysander » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:01 pm

I wonder if the fact that he did a lot of backup singing as well contributes in some way to the creation of that space you're talking about.

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Post by Jay Reynolds » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:13 pm

noeqplease wrote:And tune the kit in perfect 4th intervals. Usually get as low a note on the kick as you can, preferably an A, G, E or C, and then tune the rest of the kit going from the floor tom and up.

Say you get a low D1 on the kick, then the floor tom would be G#1, then the big rack tom C2, then the high tom F.
Were you intentionally trying to punk out the drummers on the forum with this :D

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Post by ott0bot » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:22 pm

cgarges wrote:
lyman wrote:This will get you about 90% there: stan lynch sticks
Jonathan Hall, ladies and gentlemen! Jonathan Hall!

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Haha...awesome

I was kinda visualizing this in my head:

Stan Lynch "Fishsticks"

but with nylon tips....

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Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:27 pm

werd clock wrote:
noeqplease wrote: Say you get a low D1 on the kick, then the floor tom would be G#1, then the big rack tom C2, then the high tom F.
Were you intentionally trying to punk out the drummers on the forum with this :D
hehe. i noticed that too. you got a tritone betwixt your kick and floor tom mister!

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Post by drumsound » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:48 pm

lysander wrote:I wonder if the fact that he did a lot of backup singing as well contributes in some way to the creation of that space you're talking about.
I'm sure it did!

Watch the Last Waltz sometime and notice how different Levon Helm plays when he's singing, plus the tone is different because of the extra mic.

Similarly, Tom Dowd preferred to record Aretha Franklin while she played the piano, because he thought she sang better while she played.

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