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Tuning to 60hz on Guitar

Post by jackson park » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:13 pm

Hello all,

I was wondering what I would have to set the standard a=440hz to make the low e on a guitar 60hz. I think it's around 320hz but have no idea if I'm right.

In general I was wondering if any of you had any experience trying to tune to the 60hz hum and how you went about it. (Like tuning the b to a 60hz octave harmonic)

thanks!

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Post by Scodiddly » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:46 pm

The A string on a guitar is 110Hz, I believe. E would then be around 82.4Hz. 60Hz is right in between Bb and B below that, though it would not be difficult to tune the B on the A string to 60Hz hum.

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Post by nordberg » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:58 pm

tune your 'e' string to the 60hz, tune your 'a' string to the 'e' string, plug your guitar into a tuner and see what it reads.

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Post by Chris_Meck » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:00 am

An 'A' string in standard tuning is 440hz.
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Post by Ron's Brother » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:11 am

Sorry for the stupid question.... why are you wanting to do this?
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Post by The Scum » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:40 am

From here, open A in standard tuning is 110 Hz.

Then, from here, we see that 60 Hz is between B and Bb. If you're clever, you can use that to get pretty close, but if you're looking for dead-on concert pitch, line buzz won't get you there. Won't get you anywhere close in 60% of the world, either.

If you're looking for a convenient pitch reference, there's a closer one here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precise_Tone_Plan

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bad-dog-cafe ... -tone.html

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Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:41 am

cmez wrote:An 'A' string in standard tuning is 440hz.
i don't mean to be negative, but no.

open A on a guitar is 110hz.

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Post by clayworx » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:54 am

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Post by LazarusLong » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:38 pm

Also, depending on the age / type / time of day / maintenance schedule of your local power plant, you are possibly not getting 60Hz exactly. Anyway, have fun. Love to hear how you are going to utilize this!
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Post by tubetapexfmr » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:33 pm

LazarusLong wrote:Also, depending on the age / type / time of day / maintenance schedule of your local power plant, you are possibly not getting 60Hz exactly. Anyway, have fun. Love to hear how you are going to utilize this!
Wrong. You ALWAYS get 60hz, things run on that as a standard. This never changes. Its the voltage that sways back and forth from 110 to 130ish.

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Post by Scodiddly » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:38 pm

tubetapexfmr wrote:
LazarusLong wrote:Also, depending on the age / type / time of day / maintenance schedule of your local power plant, you are possibly not getting 60Hz exactly. Anyway, have fun. Love to hear how you are going to utilize this!
Wrong. You ALWAYS get 60hz, things run on that as a standard. This never changes. Its the voltage that sways back and forth from 110 to 130ish.
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Post by CraigS63 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:05 pm

tubetapexfmr wrote:
LazarusLong wrote:Also, depending on the age / type / time of day / maintenance schedule of your local power plant, you are possibly not getting 60Hz exactly. Anyway, have fun. Love to hear how you are going to utilize this!
Wrong. You ALWAYS get 60hz, things run on that as a standard. This never changes. Its the voltage that sways back and forth from 110 to 130ish.
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Post by Chris_Meck » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:14 am

doh!

that was dumb. Teach me to post without thinking.
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Post by farview » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:25 am

Find a 60 hz sine wave and tune the string to that. Then tune the guitar to that string.

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Post by jackson park » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:19 pm

Wow thanks for the responses!

-I wanted to use this tuning to possibly mess around with a drone sort of washed out sound. I have a pretty shitty analog keyboard that has a tuner knob on it and I thought it could lead to something fun.

also, I've heard about lou reed doing this in the early velvet days or maybe even before that during his Ostrich days.

-Thanks for all the suggestions again. I guess the easiest way to do this, as sort of suggested, is to just use my ear and tune the 2nd fret b (b2) on the A string to 120hz... normally it's 123.47hz.

However, I would prefer to use my tuner to do this, which has the ability to change the A=440hz parameter. If I changed b2 to 120hz, what would that make A4?

Thanks!

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