Mid-Side examples?

plurgid · Post by **plurgid** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:11 am

I've been hearing bits and pieces about Mid-Side techniques here and there for years. The DrMS review in the last issue really piqued my interest.

Are there any well known examples of the technique around that I should check out?

mrclean · Post by **mrclean** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:56 am

The Recording Hacks website has a recent post with video and sound clips:

http://recordinghacks.com/2010/11/14/mi ... k012-km88/

norsehorse · Post by **norsehorse** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:13 am

MS v. XY: http://recordingthewrenorgan.blogs.wm.e ... xy-and-ms/

MS on the ensemble: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLyEyVswf8k

Your best bet it to test it out on your own and see what works in a particular context. It's useful to know.

plurgid · Post by **plurgid** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:17 am

Wow. Just ... wow that UM vocal ensemble link is mind-blowingly great.

Also there is no doubt I'm gonna try out mid-side on the drums at the next jam session with my band. I'm always wrestling with phase problems on the drums mics, this seems like a fantastic way to squash that problem and still get stereo drums.

thanks for the links, fellas!

dave watkins · Post by **dave watkins** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:58 pm

m/s is awesome on drums, i've messed with it mainly as a front of kit setup, but you could also throw it overhead, hopefully you have a good room to try it in.

one thing that i like to point out on mid side threads, is that although the mid mic is most often a cardioid, you can use any pickup pattern in that position and get different sounds.

one of my favorite things to do is to close mic acoustic guitars with an omni condenser mic in the mid position and a ribbon for the side. it almost sounds like you are inside the guitar.

i really love m/s... probably too much.
these are just some demos but here are some things i've done in the last year or so with m/s to give you some more examples:
drums (two bi directional ribbons front of kit, the only mics on the drums in this mix):
http://snd.sc/g8VCBf

both of these have the close-up omni mid setup i was talking about:
http://davewatkins.bandcamp.com/track/h ... stly-porch
http://davewatkins.bandcamp.com/track/f ... the-ground

have fun!

vvv · Post by **vvv** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:36 am

Great stuff guys, thanks!

Love the personal examples, d.w.!

plurgid · Post by **plurgid** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:58 am

That guitar sounds incredible, Dave!
thanks for the examples!

vvv · Post by **vvv** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:05 pm

Aiight, I were inspired, and so I did a Mid-Side guitar here.

Recording chain is listed.

vvv · Post by **vvv** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:36 pm

And two guitars, here.

Nick Sevilla · Post by **Nick Sevilla** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:52 am

http://nicksevilla.com/music/M_S_AcGtrExample1.mp3

picture of mic positions :

http://nicksevilla.com/music/M-S_Guitar.jpg

No processing on the example.

Cheers

bestmixerever · Post by **bestmixerever** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:56 pm

Here's a link to a song that I recorded and mixed. About a minute and a half in what sounds like hand claps come in (it's actually the drummer "playing" his legs) I put up a pair of 414's in M/S just for the eff of it. It's a really wide stereo image, nearly out of phase (intentionally). Give it a listen if you want.
http://protools-mixing.com/TL-Audio/Liv ... 20Love.mp3

vvv · Post by **vvv** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:33 pm

Cuppla pics, here.

vvv · Post by **vvv** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:21 pm

Aiight, for the first time I M/S'd some drums last night, with overheads, a snare and kick mic; the bass is DI and there's a smidge of reverb on the snare.

Short example, here.

vvv · Post by **vvv** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:27 pm

The above is 128kps, sorry.

320kps here.

ricercar.record · Post by **ricercar.record** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:35 pm

recorded just acoustic guitar and vocals using Mid-Side a couple months ago, i've found it can really help to give an up close and personal sound to singer-songwriter acoustic stuff, and can also make an acoustic guitar sound huge.

the recording is here

the song is a cover of a Nick Drake tune.

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