Limiter or technique to handle claps?
Limiter or technique to handle claps?
Live tracks of a choir. Claps are hammering. We are thinking it'd be best to go for a look ahead. Any idea of something to tame the claps?
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Maybe a narrow eq cut, coupled with a de-esser on the offending frequencies?
You could duplicate the track, edit out everything but the claps, then use a HP and LP filter to isolate the most prevalent frequency and cut almost everythink else out of the doubled track. Then see if the doubled clap will push the original clap out of phase enought to subdue it.
You could duplicate the track, edit out everything but the claps, then use a HP and LP filter to isolate the most prevalent frequency and cut almost everythink else out of the doubled track. Then see if the doubled clap will push the original clap out of phase enought to subdue it.
Just have fewer people clap. If everyone claps it can be to much. if one out of three members clap, you get the feel and effect, with out hammering the pre.
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We've tried a couple limiters and haven't had good results. That is why I'm wondering if there is some sort of new gen 'look ahead' that takes advantage of the computer so that its faster?JohnDavisNYC wrote:limiter maybe... maybe a multiband with the HF only?
or maybe a transient designer? that would probably work the best to just bring down the leading edge.
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Wish I could. But we've decided this live take is the keeper. So much else about the take is right.dsw wrote:Just have fewer people clap. If everyone claps it can be to much. if one out of three members clap, you get the feel and effect, with out hammering the pre.
Right now we are carefully riding the choir mics to avoid the most offending sections. Fortunately they don't clap as loud when they are singing. Its harshest during the intro.
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clap tracks suck don't they?
while it won't help you on this track, what i was turned on to recently is instead of clapping and doing multiple takes of dudes standing there trying to clap in time with their last pass of claps..... have them slap their thighs with both hands, automatically gives you twice the clapage per pass and does away with the intense transient of hand on hand action.
when i saw this done i about shot myself. i did a singer songwriter trying to have an album of arty full band nonsense about a year prior and they wanted to do 15 stereo passes of all 5 guys clapping in time.........if i had known about this other technique i would have just had the drummer and bassist slap their legs for like 4 passes and been done with it.......
while it won't help you on this track, what i was turned on to recently is instead of clapping and doing multiple takes of dudes standing there trying to clap in time with their last pass of claps..... have them slap their thighs with both hands, automatically gives you twice the clapage per pass and does away with the intense transient of hand on hand action.
when i saw this done i about shot myself. i did a singer songwriter trying to have an album of arty full band nonsense about a year prior and they wanted to do 15 stereo passes of all 5 guys clapping in time.........if i had known about this other technique i would have just had the drummer and bassist slap their legs for like 4 passes and been done with it.......
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Using the out of phase trick is a great idea...simply magic if you get it to work.
When the signals null, they simply disappear...I love it. Good suggestion ott0bot.
When the signals null, they simply disappear...I love it. Good suggestion ott0bot.
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Why must choirs always clap, or break out silly percussion instruments? Everything will be going just fine, then suddenly it turns into gospel hour!
I used to do live choral recordings (no retakes) and this kind of thing would always sneak up on me.
Are they overbearing in all the mics? Close mics? Distant? Maybe boost the source with the least clapping.
Good luck!
Chris
I used to do live choral recordings (no retakes) and this kind of thing would always sneak up on me.
Are they overbearing in all the mics? Close mics? Distant? Maybe boost the source with the least clapping.
Good luck!
Chris
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