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Reversed panning...

Post by chrisjnorwood » Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:16 am

So, the other day I just got my new CD back from the mastering engineer and I noticed that he had reversed all of my panning. Fortunately he said he was more than willing to fix it. Has this happened to anyone else? Should I be worried?
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Post by sessionsatstudiom » Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:52 am

Sounds like he a wire crossed somewhere. everyone is human from time to time. Is this your first time dealing with this person? Did you like the work otherwise? If you did like it and have dealt with him before then give him a human moment. If not then yes be worried.

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Post by Gentleman Jim » Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:08 pm

Simple to fix: Just turn the cd over.

duh.....

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Post by AndyHutchinson » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:24 am

Gentleman Jim wrote:Simple to fix: Just turn the cd over.

duh.....
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Post by Gregg Juke » Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:53 am

>>>...turn the CD over<<<

I'm not sure that's right. You might have to cut the CD in half, and glue just one side back together upside-down.

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Post by chrisjnorwood » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:03 am

:wink: Of course! It seems so easy now.
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Post by chrisjnorwood » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:06 am

I guess I shouldn't complain. For the most part the guy has done a great job.
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Post by Aquaman » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:02 am

Are you sure you weren't just listening upside down?

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Post by ashcat_lt » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:13 am

I find myself wondering how much it really matters. I mean sure it's simple to fix, and I'm sure any ME would be happy to revise the master. And I don't mean to call the OP an anal retentive prick. You need to be happy with the product, and if it bugs you you should get it fixed.

But I wonder: how many of us would bother to have it redone? Is the absolute panning/perspective matter that much to you? Does the hi-hat absolutely HAVE to be on the left side? I can see where it would be an issue if this was supposed to match the perspective of a video, but for a pure audio release, is it really that big a deal?

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Post by chris harris » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:22 am

It's a huge deal. I'm fucking blown away that ANYONE would just let this slide. It's the EXACT OPPOSITE of the panning decisions that you made in mixing.

Wow. Just, wow.

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Post by chris harris » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:24 am

What other decisions do you make in mixing that you wouldn't mind someone ruining? What if they summed the whole mix to mono? Would you say something? Would it "matter"?

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Post by chris harris » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:25 am

Further, have you ever listened to one of your own mixes with the Left & Right channels swapped? It didn't sound "wrong" to you? It didn't "matter"? Weird...

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Post by ricey » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:23 am

i had a mix mastered in reverse - for all i know i was the one that crossed wires when mixing or monitoring from the DAT player. that was 15 years ago, still difficult for me to listen to that record but i think i'm the only one with that problem!

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Post by Z-Plane » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:05 pm

I know not everyone has computers or DAWs, but most do or have easy access to such. This is fixed in two clicks.

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Post by The Scum » Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:25 pm

The situation raises a couple of questions.

You could start by giving the ME the benefit of the doubt. Maybe it's an honest "whoops" moment...a mispatching, a special setup left from the previous session, whatever.

But it might also indicate that you need to doublecheck their work a little extra. Part of what I expect from a mastering engineer is a fresh validation that the product is reasonable, all around. Attention to detail in the process of that check is extremely important. If they missed something as big as the L/R swap, what else might have slipped through?

If I were the ME in question, I'd be pretty embarrassed, and work to correct the situation on my dime.
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If I have to "fix" the master once the mastering engineer is done with it, I certainly didn't get what I paid for.

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