Beyerdynamic M160 on KICK

[mikoo69]

Was reading about Joe Barresi recording for Queens of the Stoneage:

"On kick drum I always love a mic in and out. Inside I prefer the Sennheiser MD421 ? I'm not a huge D112 fan. If the 421 doesn't work, the next choice would be a [Shure] Beta 52. Outside could be anything, an NS10 speaker, a 47 FET, or a Beyer 160, about three feet away."

Has anyone tried this - a 421 inside and a Beyer 160 outside? I am really intrigured by the Beyer 160 in general; wondering what to expect, and how this combination will work.

[???????]

"three feet away" is an important part of that sentence.

[mikoo69]

i understand. how will the 160 sound compared to lets say a 47 fet? I can't afford a 47 Fet or a clone right now.

[MoreSpaceEcho]

back when i was into using a front of kit mic, i liked the 160 about a foot or two in front of the kick at about snare height. had a nice punch to it and added a lot of higher frequency slap and air that the close mic didn't get. i dunno how it compares to a fet47.

[goose42]

M160 is my new favorite mic for non-vocal things. A friend used his as overheads, and they gave his recording the exact blend of '70s R&B and modern indie that the band (our mutual friends) needed (when paired with all the right elements, of course - room, kit setup, player, preamp...).

Long story short, they weren't dark, but they weren't bright either. Mellow, dry, and focused. Not as much detail as the CAD M179s tried in the same position, but the quality of the detail suited the recording.

[mikoo69]

its between an m160, ns10 speaker or D12 for my for a second kick mic. i would def use the m160 for other applications as well, so thats a front runner, though if the 421 doesn't get enough low end, and the 160 wont make up for it, it may make more sense to pair the 421 with a ns10 subkick or D12. thoughts on that?

[MoreSpaceEcho]

no one has ever regretted buying a 160.

you can use any old woofer for the ns10 thing. just wire a cable to it and get it as close to the head as possible.

[Tim A]

yeah 160 are pretty uch great one anything.... where are a fet 47.... not as much. never used a 160 on a kick, though used ribbons in similar positions for for of an overall drum sound... sounds great!

[palinilap]

I've got a 260 and it excels on drums and percussion, guitar amps, acoustic guitar and banjo; pretty much anywhere when you want something to sit well in a mix and not compete with other instruments for high frequencies.

[honkyjonk]

I like the M160 as overhead so much I've never tried it on kick, but I imagine it would be awesome in the above described method, as the way it picks up kick even from the overhead position seems very smooth and right for lack of a better word.

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