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Fulltone Tape Echo in Mix "Re-Amp?"

Post by Ryan Silva » Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:33 am

Going to have one of these in for a mix coming up, and would normally assume that it would require a Re-Amping device to match impedance. Has anyone been able to do this without the reamp process?

I've noticed some pedals/devices actually do ok without. Like I have a Moogerfooger LPF that does ok without.


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Post by E.Bennett » Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:46 am

just run it as is. probably fine as long as you attenuate the input a bit.

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Post by honkyjonk » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:00 pm

Reamping is better in my opinion. I've tried it both ways with an Echoplex EP4. There haven't been any instances yet where I've preferred not using a reamp when interfacing low Z stuff with high Z.

For anyone's reference who hasn't seen this before, go here:

http://www.jensen-transformers.com/apps_sc.html#general and look for this:

JT-11P-1 Balanced Line Level to Unbalanced Guitar Level (9KB PDF)

I built one with a Cinemag transformer and it works perfectly.

You can probably get away with it without using a reamp. But a reamp box is one of the most useful things ever to have in a studio.
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Post by Ryan Silva » Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:43 pm

honkyjonk wrote:Reamping is better in my opinion. I've tried it both ways with an Echoplex EP4. There haven't been any instances yet where I've preferred not using a reamp when interfacing low Z stuff with high Z.

For anyone's reference who hasn't seen this before, go here:

http://www.jensen-transformers.com/apps_sc.html#general and look for this:

JT-11P-1 Balanced Line Level to Unbalanced Guitar Level (9KB PDF)

I built one with a Cinemag transformer and it works perfectly.

You can probably get away with it without using a reamp. But a reamp box is one of the most useful things ever to have in a studio.
They are nice to have around, I only have one at the moment and it pretty much lives connected to my EH memory man. It will most likely be used in the same mix on guitar, I think I would use the tape delay for vocals.

Thanks! that was the info I was looking for.
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Post by Marc Alan Goodman » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:02 pm

Last year I built a box with six channels of Reamp and six DIs all based on the JLM audio dingo jr boards. All of our tape delays now go through it, including a TTE, and there's definitely a significant improvement in the sound.

There's no reason not to use the TTE on its own, but if you have the option I highly suggest going the Reamp/DI route.

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Post by Harry » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:42 am

The moog pedals are awesome the way you can throw just about anything at them and they seem to work well.

If the TTE doesn't just work on it's own put the moog pedal in front of it.


I do need to get a re-amp box though....ahhh the long list of stuff!

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Post by Recycled_Brains » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:08 am

Reamp is nice. That's what I use when I have the TTE on hand.

One thing about the TTE that I get on loan from time to time, is that it's finicky with grounding. The lift on the reamp is handy for that. Also, being able to adjust the level from the reamp is handy, though you could just use an aux in PT for that I suppose.
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Post by vatoben » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:42 pm

I run the O.G. Reamp with the Fulltone often while mixing. Since it's an instrument level device I've never attempted to run line level through it. I can say that it sounds great with instrument level in, then echo going back into a DI. For me has always been one of those things that "mixes itself". In my music it kinda can almost never be too loud or too quiet, it always just sounds right. I'm a fan of it.

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Post by Dakota » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:58 pm

The fulltone being a modernized EP-2, I can report that the EP-2 is surprisingly flexible with reamp/impedance matching or not. The timbre is different either way, but both are good, matter of taste. Definitely needs level boost back in - a regular channel input on my soundtracs seems to do just fine on that even without a DI for impedance change. In other words, I've found both i and o to be flexible. YMMV.

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Post by TapeOpLarry » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:56 pm

I use a TTE all the time. You can pipe in full console-type levels and trim with the record level pot. I frequently use the TTE to process sounds back into Pro Tools as well as more typical delays. I pipe the output to the front DI of a preamp in most cases, as it is a low signal.
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