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recording drums through a PA

Post by C_R_J » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:55 am

i read somewhere on here on the net a while back about recording drums through a PA behind the drum kit (flaming lips?), and i just cant seem to find a good link or anything about it. i now have access to a pair of decent powered PA speakers where i record drums, and im just starting to really get into using room mics more when recording drums, so this sounds like something id be very interested. is it worth talking about? or does anyone have any good links for me? thanks for your time.
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Post by Snarl 12/8 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:15 am

Sounds kinda like reamping without the wait. Could be cool.
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Post by C_R_J » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:21 am

not sure how i missed this google searching. a interesting read.

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Post by Jitters » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:45 am

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Post by Burnt Ernie » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:09 am

Did it with Soul Asylum/GraveDancers Union at Power Station in 92. Regular close micing,over and close/far room. 2 PA cabs with subs,crossed over so mostly just sub blasting. Just sent kick,snare,toms to it and mic'd the room.
Put some room mics all the way up in that coffin cutout thing in the ceiling.
It helped that the kit (20" kick,12"tom,16" floor) were almost completely loose,with LOTS of tape and dampening.
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Post by dimag333 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:45 am

I believe that was done for pearl jam 10 also

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Post by C_R_J » Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:21 am

thats what was probably gonna try out. just sending some kick snare and toms into them.
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Post by Bro Shark » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:22 pm

As a drummer it can be fun and energizing to hear your drums helped out by a PA. Not sure if that applies to tracking with headphones on or not though.

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Post by C_R_J » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:01 pm

i think its mostly for the room mics. some extra boom. no clue. im excited to fuck with it though.
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Post by lysander » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:40 pm

I think maybe the mixerman diaries mention this too.

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Post by vvv » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:13 pm

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Post by Gregg Juke » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:35 pm

It is in there; illustrating the whole "live soundman vs. studio guy" dichotomy.

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Post by Jitters » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:41 am

It's probably worth mentioning, even if it fairly obvious, that you could run the drum tracks through the PA after the initial capture as well. You know, like if you were worried about drum bleed in any possible future edits, or painting yourself into a corner.

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Post by fuzz » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:43 am

I've done this several times, basically what's been said (sent the k, snr, and toms to two EAW's and it benefited the rm mics). When your doing this you need to be checking the polarity of your system and mics. You can tweak the reamped mix and really get something that works for the tune. Eric Valentine mentions doing this in a recent interview (w/ gtr amps) and the in the Metallica documentary "A year in the life," has Lars K through two subs next to his kit

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