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Some simple tone controls

Post by The Scum » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:09 pm

The latest issue of Electronic Design had an interesting circuit, a passive variant of the ol' tilt control:

http://electronicdesign.com/article/ana ... ntrol.aspx

About $2 of parts there...$5 with a fancy knob. Simple enough that it could be wired up simply hanging on the back of the pot.

The article mentions a couple of caveats - 6 dB loss, and prone to loading. It wants a low impedance driver, and a high impedance load. Gee, like most modern I/O interfaces already provide.

Sounds like it could be really useful in the sidechain of a compressor. The compressor would set up the drive & loading correctly, and I can lower the threshold 6 dB to compensate for the level loss. I think I need to see if there's a 50K pot in my junk drawer.

In digging for that URL, I turned up an analysis of the classic active tilt control - a similar circuit in the feedback loop of an opamp:

http://www.edn.com/article/520749-Imple ... filter.php

The main differences being that it doesn't have the 6 dB insertion loss, and that the cutoffs look like opposed symmetrical shelves, where the passive version's cutoffs seem to fall to -infinity.
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Post by germaniac » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:10 pm

Cool circuit, thanks for posting!

BTW, you know, that's essentially the tone control circuit in a Big Muff fuzz?

http://freecircuitdiagram.com/wp-conten ... ontrol.gif

The main difference is, the symmetrical component values of the ED circuit give a "flat mids" response, whereas the asymmetrical values of the Big Muff give a "scooped mids" response. . . . :D

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Post by strdsk » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:27 pm

Very cool! Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Knights Who Say Neve » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:31 pm

Cool, thanks for the post.
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Post by themagicmanmdt » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:24 pm

be sure to mess around with the 'duncan tone stack calculator'. that thing is wonderful. it includes a fully adjustable schematic. i mean, seriously, download it, love it, and then paypal donate to the developers. (i'm not affiliated in any way, i just love it.)
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Post by The Scum » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:50 pm

BTW, you know, that's essentially the tone control circuit in a Big Muff fuzz?
I kinda figured...and it looks like "classical" highpass and lowpass filters with a crossfade control between them.

I'll bet a bunch of fuzzes/distortions have similar tone stages.

Not to mention the Tonelux tilt control.
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Oh yeah, I've played with that. It is pretty useful...particularly in a "you can't get there from here" way, showing that it's hard to get a truly flat response with the controls centered.

I've since graduated to ltSpice, another free package that's very useful. I see Duncan has some tube models to plug into it, too!
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