"How To" for a DIY phase inverter?
"How To" for a DIY phase inverter?
I'm looking for a schematic or "how to" for a stand-alone phase inverter.
I use a lot of consumer electronics and toys in recording and whenever possible (when the source is stereo) I record all audio from one side and noise floor only from the other side so I can phase flip and eliminate the hum, hiss, etc. I'd love to be able to do this in real time. All the in-line phase inverters I've found are pretty pricey and also set up as XLR. I just want to invert a single mono signal.
What should I be looking for? Googling isn't helping at all.
I use a lot of consumer electronics and toys in recording and whenever possible (when the source is stereo) I record all audio from one side and noise floor only from the other side so I can phase flip and eliminate the hum, hiss, etc. I'd love to be able to do this in real time. All the in-line phase inverters I've found are pretty pricey and also set up as XLR. I just want to invert a single mono signal.
What should I be looking for? Googling isn't helping at all.
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<Pedantry>Phase? Or Polarity? </Pedantry>
In passive circuitry, you can use a transformer to invert polarity. Just wire the secondary backwards. If you're using noisy toys and stuff to begin with, then even a cheapo 600:600 modem transformer should be sufficient. Mouser have some for a few bucks each, such as PN 2TU016-RC.
If you want active circuitry, Google for "op-amp inverting amplifier."
In passive circuitry, you can use a transformer to invert polarity. Just wire the secondary backwards. If you're using noisy toys and stuff to begin with, then even a cheapo 600:600 modem transformer should be sufficient. Mouser have some for a few bucks each, such as PN 2TU016-RC.
If you want active circuitry, Google for "op-amp inverting amplifier."
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Using a transformer is very doable, I think. Something like this maybe? http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... Id=2103254
I also run into impedance issues pretty often so this is definitely worth learning about.
I also run into impedance issues pretty often so this is definitely worth learning about.
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That's an output transformer...intended to let you drive an 8-Ohm speaker from a wimpy solid state output. You'll lose a lot of level with it, trading voltage for current.
I'm assuming you want the inverted signal at the same level as the original? If so, you need to primary:secondary ratio to match. 600:600 is the most likely configuration.
If you're going to get very deep into DIY, I strongly recommend weaning yourself from the Radio-controlled-car Shack, and dealing with real distributors. Mouser treat me very well, and they stock parts that are good for audio. Digikey is a close second, and Sparkfun is cool, but not especially audio-centric.
I'm assuming you want the inverted signal at the same level as the original? If so, you need to primary:secondary ratio to match. 600:600 is the most likely configuration.
If you're going to get very deep into DIY, I strongly recommend weaning yourself from the Radio-controlled-car Shack, and dealing with real distributors. Mouser treat me very well, and they stock parts that are good for audio. Digikey is a close second, and Sparkfun is cool, but not especially audio-centric.
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Thanks for that. That's the kind of info I'm after but having a difficult time finding.The Scum wrote:I'm assuming you want the inverted signal at the same level as the original? If so, you need to primary:secondary ratio to match. 600:600 is the most likely configuration.
RS is pretty crappy but it's on my way home from work and is usually my first stop when I'm "prototyping". Convenience is a hellova drug.
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I just wired up one of the transformers you suggested. Works perfectly!
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I'm assembling a few units and putting kits together this weekend. I'll post the sales page when it's up.crow wrote:Your stereo toy hum-cancelling technique sounds brilliant. I can't wait to try it!
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