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How to remove bass piezo attack(?) clicks

Post by vvv » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:21 pm

Aiight, threw down a quick bass line, an acoustic-electric bass into a Brick and dbx160XT, didn't check any settings, just used the default setting for my P bass.

Not sure but don't think its the pre or compressor - I think it's the piezo pick-up?

Anyway, what's the easiest way to fix this track? (I don't wanna re-play it as it's a live jam; I know I can de-click it by hand but ...)

Small snippet example, here.
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Post by bluesman » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:43 am

High pass at 40hz or so, followed by really fast compression @ 4 to1 has worked for me in the past. You can also find the frequency of the click & notch a lot of it out.
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Post by vvv » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:53 am

I'll have to play with that; it's not the first time I've had the issue, now I think of it, and always with the acoustic-electric.

Last night I tried a de-click effect in CEP; it took out some but not enuff.

I ended up reversing the de-click effect and going in and manually removing 'em - took about 15 minutes onna 5/12 minute song.

I don't think I got 'em all yet - makes me right now hate being such a busy bass player! :twisted:
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Post by Gregg Juke » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:46 am

If you have Sound Forge (or something similar), you probably have a "vinyl restoration" plug. There's a pretty comprehensive "de-click" in there you could try.

With stuff like that that EQ doesn't quite get, I'd usually go in and do it manually if it was recorded in the box...

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Post by Gregg Juke » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:50 am

Just went back and actually listened. That's nothing, buddy. A dear friend and bass-player who has passed used to rest his thumb on the pick-up on the P-bass. Whenever we recorded something (and probably always, but we really only noticed in the studio), he would keep time by _slapping the pick-up_ on all of the backbeats. So every single snare backbeat got a "clithwock." Man, those were a joy to edit...

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Post by bluesman » Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:18 pm

instruments with active electronics seem to be the worst offenders at this.
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Post by vvv » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:41 pm

Glad it ain't just me!

GJ, I do believe I remember you posting about him before.

And yep, bluesman, this has active electronics.

Amusing related side note: I'm trying to tune the thing during the power outtage we had, by ear, and having a tuff time for some reason with the A string - just can't get it.

And I realize, oh yeah, built-in tuner, right there next to the active EQ. Just hadda also realize that besides the little light-up arrow, there's a little "#" light about an inch over from the note letter - right where I tend to put my hand over it.
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Post by JWL » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:56 pm

I would just EQ that. a hi-Q hipass filter tuned at the fundamental, and a lowpass filter to get rid of the click, you don't need much there above 5kish depending on what else is happening.

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Post by vvv » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:07 pm

I tried the EQ thing, 6th order shelf and also a FFT low-pass, couldn't get more than half out.

I ended up just manually applying the de-click in CEP. 5:30 song took mebbe 15-20 minutes.

I think I was just playing that track too hard, over-driving the pick-up.

However, I do note that my tracks with an opto compressor (Meek) never give me that problem with that bass; mebbe there's some weird interaction with the Brick or the dbx ...
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Post by kevin206 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:15 pm

Gregg Juke wrote:he would keep time by _slapping the pick-up_ on all of the backbeats.
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I was listening to a band at an outdoor gig a few months back and for five minutes I wondered why the kick drum mic was randomly clipping!

I hear these bass players and I always wonder if I sound the same way when I play.

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