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Pop Filters
I'm a student studying business at Uni but I'm also a musician/amateur recording engineer. I'm currently doing a market research module and have decided to do it on the exciting world of pop filters.
I know they are almost an essential when recording certain sources but have always found them to be failing in a few areas. Because of this I'd be interested to hear your opinions on pop filters on the market and what you think of them.
The questionnaire is 8 questions long and shouldn't take you more than 2 minutes to do so if you've got some spare time and want to give pop shields some love I'd really like to hear your thoughts!
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HSX5HDC
I know that when I use pop filters I often find them relatively annoying but I'm not sure if this is because I'm using cheap ones that droop all the time. What do you think is the best pop filter on the market and are expensive ones better than the cheaper ones? Do pop filters really colour the sound that much, I've never noticed anything myself when using metal and fabric ones. Is it really that much of an issue or are there more important things in your recording chain to worry about?
I know they are almost an essential when recording certain sources but have always found them to be failing in a few areas. Because of this I'd be interested to hear your opinions on pop filters on the market and what you think of them.
The questionnaire is 8 questions long and shouldn't take you more than 2 minutes to do so if you've got some spare time and want to give pop shields some love I'd really like to hear your thoughts!
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HSX5HDC
I know that when I use pop filters I often find them relatively annoying but I'm not sure if this is because I'm using cheap ones that droop all the time. What do you think is the best pop filter on the market and are expensive ones better than the cheaper ones? Do pop filters really colour the sound that much, I've never noticed anything myself when using metal and fabric ones. Is it really that much of an issue or are there more important things in your recording chain to worry about?
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You guys are like Stiller & Meara (you decide which one is which). vvv, that was a looong way around the horn to make a boozing joke...
OP, I will answer your questions. But Just. This. Once.
GJ
OP, I will answer your questions. But Just. This. Once.
GJ
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Ha!
Y'know, I never really expect anyone to pay much attention to my tomfoolery ...
I should mention, I was reading somewhere that one reason Sinatra, et al. had their expensive Neuemanns hung upside down was so that any spit would drain away from the mic body.
I mean, if ever someone needed a reason to use a pop filter ...
Y'know, I never really expect anyone to pay much attention to my tomfoolery ...
I should mention, I was reading somewhere that one reason Sinatra, et al. had their expensive Neuemanns hung upside down was so that any spit would drain away from the mic body.
I mean, if ever someone needed a reason to use a pop filter ...
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I was told it was so the heat in the tubes didn't rise towards the capsule. Who know's what's true these days...vvv wrote:Ha!
Y'know, I never really expect anyone to pay much attention to my tomfoolery ...
I should mention, I was reading somewhere that one reason Sinatra, et al. had their expensive Neuemanns hung upside down was so that any spit would drain away from the mic body.
I mean, if ever someone needed a reason to use a pop filter ...
"If there's one ironclad rule of pop history, it's this: The monkey types Hamlet only once."
Found it; it was actually a cuppla comments to the below-cited Recordinghacks article:
"Tube or FET, don?t forget about one thing ? spitting. When mic is uspide-down {sic}, it?s much cleaner after recording session, and pop-filter helps only a bit."
and,
"I have always hung my LDC microphones upside down. Two main reasons:
1. As mentioned to get it out of the way of the music stand with the words or music.
2. if perchance any spit goes on the capsule it will drain downwards because of gravity towards the ground and away from the other electronics of the microphone."
Besides mebbe ruling out temperature, not blocking the music stand, singer's movements/gestures and singer's posture are also theorized as reasons.
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"Tube or FET, don?t forget about one thing ? spitting. When mic is uspide-down {sic}, it?s much cleaner after recording session, and pop-filter helps only a bit."
and,
"I have always hung my LDC microphones upside down. Two main reasons:
1. As mentioned to get it out of the way of the music stand with the words or music.
2. if perchance any spit goes on the capsule it will drain downwards because of gravity towards the ground and away from the other electronics of the microphone."
Besides mebbe ruling out temperature, not blocking the music stand, singer's movements/gestures and singer's posture are also theorized as reasons.
cite
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So basically what we're saying we'd all like a newly-designed pop filter with a trough at the bottom to catch everything that inevitably pours out of the microphone at the end of every session.
In all seriousness, I took the survey. I'm curious what improvements are being considered.
In all seriousness, I took the survey. I'm curious what improvements are being considered.
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I recently ordered a JZ microphone pop filter and it's simply amazing. you can blow pretty fiercely and not feel a breeze on the other side. no noticeable effect on the frequency content. it's basically 2 steel mesh ripples the raise outward in the center with a steel brace between them. the gooseneck and clap are top notch too.
http://www.jzmic.com/eng/jzstore/Accessories
http://www.jzmic.com/eng/jzstore/Accessories
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Hey, looks cool otto, how much does it cost (the site's not telling)?
GJ
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"He's about to learn the most important lesson in the music business-- 'Never trust people in the music business.' "
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One dealer has it "discounted" to $119.
http://www.purewaveaudio.com/product/JZ ... ilter.html
http://www.purewaveaudio.com/product/JZ ... ilter.html
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I got it for around $100 direct from JZ. I joined the mailing list and got a 20% off coupon mailed to me. Worth every penny.
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kurt ballou referenced one he bought (in his create live series) because it's dishwasher safe.
i need to revisit that segment and get the brand, because that's brilliant.
i need to revisit that segment and get the brand, because that's brilliant.
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I've got Steadman and Groove Tubes pop filters that are virtually indistinguishable...one has a "GT" embossed in the metal, and I think the clamps are slightly different.
Dishwasher-safe being a prime criteria.
The clamps on both are stamped out of sheet metal, but in practice they're no more flimsy/flexible than my mic stands.
If you really wanted to DIY a nice pop filter, start with one of these:
http://www.steveweissmusic.com/product/ ... mic-stands
Then add one of these:
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12054
And a piece of this:
http://www.mcnichols.com/products/perfo ... c:AV-36594
Dishwasher-safe being a prime criteria.
The clamps on both are stamped out of sheet metal, but in practice they're no more flimsy/flexible than my mic stands.
If you really wanted to DIY a nice pop filter, start with one of these:
http://www.steveweissmusic.com/product/ ... mic-stands
Then add one of these:
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12054
And a piece of this:
http://www.mcnichols.com/products/perfo ... c:AV-36594
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I made my own pop filter in 1998 out of a coat-hanger and a pair of my ex's black nylon stockings. The girl is long gone but the pop filter still works great. I use it when I need something for a bit of a nostalgic, emotionally immature sound.
I also have this combo, http://www.shockmount.com/page2.html, and I still use it all of the time. Foam the shock mount if needed.
Survey completed.
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I also have this combo, http://www.shockmount.com/page2.html, and I still use it all of the time. Foam the shock mount if needed.
Survey completed.
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