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Post by Recycled_Brains » Wed May 27, 2015 1:59 pm

mwerden wrote:Just recorded bass through my Ampeg Gemini for the first time. Sounded absolutely killer. Also had a good ole countryman DI which sounded like it should. Haven't done the mixes yet, so I don't know what'll get used.

I've had situations where I favored the DI and others where I favored the amp. Usually the amp takes center stage when the bass or the player ain't so good. Just sayin...
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Post by vvv » Thu May 28, 2015 10:11 am

roscoenyc wrote:Sure thing.
It works with those too.

Using an attenuator with a bass amp is really something else.
Can really help with 'bass in the room'. Certainly helps with the ISO box technique.
I did this last weekend with a Scholz Powersoak between a Musicman HD130 and a pair of Celestions inna a open-back guitar cab, mic'd RE320 into a ISA1 (about 30% DI added, Brick-dbx160XT; bass was a Hohner 2B2) - loved it!

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Post by kslight » Thu May 28, 2015 10:35 am

MoreSpaceEcho wrote:i usually just go p bass-di-dav pre-computer.

almost always end up compressing it. sometimes ITB (presswerk or blockfish), sometimes OTB (distressor or 1968).

sometimes reamp it through either an old polytone bass amp or a deluxe reverb. sometimes out to a yamaha cs-10 synth if i want some filter sweep stuff.

if i know i want distortion i usually record a track of mesa studio preamp+pedals in addition to the clean di.

once in a great while i'll use the sansamp bass rbi. usually though i find that thing sounds great solo'd, but isn't happening in a full mix.

if i'm playing heavy dub bass, naturally i use the dub pedal:

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and almost invariably end up shelving all that extra low end down when i mix. haha.
I ended up doing this with my FX25B for some late night mega fat bass. Had one of those rare songs where it the bass could suck up a ton of sonic real estate. I ended up running my Bass VI on neck+middle with the tone rolled all the way down through the Pigtronix Keymaster, with an MF Drive set to a light overdrive on one loop, the other loop with the FX25B set to "dub" followed by a Rat set to "very light drive, mostly there just to roll some bottom out", and then blended with maybe 65/35 leading on the dub side.

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Post by biasvoltage » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:18 pm

Just did a bunch of bass tracking this week.


DI channel was Cinemag DI box I built into a Neve-ish preamp from Sound Skulptor, into a Hairball 1176. Since I built all the gear, I guess that could be the DIy channel.

Amp channel was an Ampeg B15N mic'd with a 421, then into a UA LA610.

That's a whole lot of tubes and transformers, and the tones (with a Fender Musicmaster, a Fender Jazz, and a Rickenbacker 4001 with flatwounds) were all fantastic.

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Post by vvv » Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:11 pm

OK, some observations.

Didn't like the TinyTerror on bass so much; it's OK for some trebly grind (into a 12") but there are better options for me.

Now, that PowerSoak on the tube amp as suggested by roscoenyc? Let's just say: 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

And cranking the amp (I'm using a Musicman HD130 into a 2x14" Celestion-loaded open-back) gives such sweet distortion!

Also, I have found when combining with a DI that if I run the mic'd amp primary into a linked compressor (using a dbx166A) it allows me to avoid having to shift the bass tracks to match. Next, I'm going to try using the DI as the primary (I hope it will kinda "bloom") ...
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Post by Garthplinko » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:42 am

That dub setting for bass is a MONSTER. Never realized how much my bass was mudding up my mixes until now.

Thank you for the tip!
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Post by vvv » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:58 pm

MoreSpaceEcho wrote:i usually just go p bass-di-dav pre-computer.

almost always end up compressing it. sometimes ITB (presswerk or blockfish), sometimes OTB (distressor or 1968).

sometimes reamp it through either an old polytone bass amp or a deluxe reverb. sometimes out to a yamaha cs-10 synth if i want some filter sweep stuff.

if i know i want distortion i usually record a track of mesa studio preamp+pedals in addition to the clean di.

once in a great while i'll use the sansamp bass rbi. usually though i find that thing sounds great solo'd, but isn't happening in a full mix.

if i'm playing heavy dub bass, naturally i use the dub pedal:

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and almost invariably end up shelving all that extra low end down when i mix. haha.
I just bought one of these used.

It works off battery, not off One-Spot - does yours?
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Post by vvv » Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:41 pm

Oops, got it workin'.
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Post by joninc » Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:56 pm

what kind of pedal is that ?
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Post by vvv » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:39 pm

DOD FX 25 Envelope Filter.

I have a cuppla different ones - they're all fun.
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Post by joninc » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:05 pm

and that setting is super subby? or duck quacky?
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Post by vvv » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:42 am

Rub-a-dub-subby-dubby. :twisted:
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Post by A.David.MacKinnon » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:45 pm

After my earlier rant against DI bass I will now concede that a P-Bass plugged into an Ampex 600 is a beautiful thing.

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Post by kslight » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:46 am

vvv wrote:
MoreSpaceEcho wrote:i usually just go p bass-di-dav pre-computer.

almost always end up compressing it. sometimes ITB (presswerk or blockfish), sometimes OTB (distressor or 1968).

sometimes reamp it through either an old polytone bass amp or a deluxe reverb. sometimes out to a yamaha cs-10 synth if i want some filter sweep stuff.

if i know i want distortion i usually record a track of mesa studio preamp+pedals in addition to the clean di.

once in a great while i'll use the sansamp bass rbi. usually though i find that thing sounds great solo'd, but isn't happening in a full mix.

if i'm playing heavy dub bass, naturally i use the dub pedal:

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and almost invariably end up shelving all that extra low end down when i mix. haha.
I just bought one of these used.

It works off battery, not off One-Spot - does yours?
Mine is actually the FX25B (has a blend control also), and it works off either.

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Post by vvv » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:45 am

Yeah, I don't know what was up. It worked on batteries but not the 1-Spot, tried again and now it does. I bought it used for US$40 shipped, so I reckon I'll keep it - it does sound cool! Mine looks like the above, w/out the stickers, of course.
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