8 Different dynamic mics as overheads

Recording Techniques, People Skills, Gear, Recording Spaces, Computers, and DIY

Moderators: drumsound, tomb

User avatar
Gregg Juke
cryogenically thawing
Posts: 3505
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:35 pm
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA
Contact:

Re: 8 Different dynamic mics as overheads

Post by Gregg Juke » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:16 pm

>>>>Only if you have an amateur playing.<<<<

Yes, I have to disagree here. Colauitta's awesomeness aside, there will _always_ be variances in each performance with a live player; that is the beauty of a real performer in the first place. You could go with some type of electronic simulation-- recorded playback of one performance, but then, you're not recording live, right? 'Bot drummer? Not a realistic situation at this time, and if it was, it would not be measuring what we are actually seeking to measure/test.

There's always going to be a compromise.

Tony, I loved your playing!

GJ

PS-- I didn't see your response until after I wrote the above, but, yeah...
Gregg Juke
Nocturnal Productions Music Group
Drum! Magazine Contributor
http://MightyNoStars.com

"He's about to learn the most important lesson in the music business-- 'Never trust people in the music business.' "

User avatar
floid
buyin' a studio
Posts: 852
Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:39 pm
Location: in exile

Re: 8 Different dynamic mics as overheads

Post by floid » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:35 pm

ST:TNG episode 162, "Inheritance"
In which Data realizes he has not actually met his mother upon hearing her give a second violin recital.
Village Idiot.

User avatar
Nick Sevilla
speech impediment
Posts: 4725
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:34 pm
Location: Los Angeles California USA
Contact:

Re: 8 Different dynamic mics as overheads

Post by Nick Sevilla » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:36 pm

drumsound wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:12 pm
I'm a hack

In all seriousness, even cats like Vinnie (one of the greatest EVER) there will always be subtle differences. I could have been more scientific and I can play the tune in my sleep and be pretty damn consistent, but I wanted to have a single performance. I also wanted to be a little time efficient, which would not have happened with 8 takes and measuring tape.
LOL, not trying to demean you at all.

If you have ever recorded a sample library, you can see how nuts it can get.
Re Amping Fart Noises.

User avatar
losthighway
deaf.
Posts: 1773
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:02 pm
Contact:

Re: 8 Different dynamic mics as overheads

Post by losthighway » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:13 pm

floid wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:35 pm
ST:TNG episode 162, "Inheritance"
In which Data realizes he has not actually met his mother upon hearing her give a second violin recital.
Took me a couple hours, but I got it.





It was worth it.

User avatar
Gregg Juke
cryogenically thawing
Posts: 3505
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:35 pm
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA
Contact:

Re: 8 Different dynamic mics as overheads

Post by Gregg Juke » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:32 pm

losthighway wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:13 pm
floid wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:35 pm
ST:TNG episode 162, "Inheritance"
In which Data realizes he has not actually met his mother upon hearing her give a second violin recital.
Took me a couple hours, but I got it.





It was worth it.

I still don't, but maybe it will come to me.

I'll simply add, for no apparent reason:

"Help me! Spock! HELP. ME. SPOCK!!"

"Good, now cry out like Lincoln."

"Help me, Kirk! Help. Me. Kiiirrrkk!"

GJ
Gregg Juke
Nocturnal Productions Music Group
Drum! Magazine Contributor
http://MightyNoStars.com

"He's about to learn the most important lesson in the music business-- 'Never trust people in the music business.' "

User avatar
floid
buyin' a studio
Posts: 852
Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:39 pm
Location: in exile

Re: 8 Different dynamic mics as overheads

Post by floid » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:01 pm

PICARD: That is remarkable. Why don't you play something? 
NELLA: You start and I'll jump in. 
PICARD: What shall we play? 
NELLA: What were you working on before I came in? 
PICARD: Bach, the third Brandenburg. 
NELLA: Perfect. Go ahead. 
(Picard starts, but gets lost when she joins in) 
PICARD: I'm sorry. 
NELLA: It's all right. You're not used to playing with anyone, are you? 
PICARD: Just the computer. 
NELLA: I may not be as precise as a computer, but I think you'll enjoy it more. Why don't we start with something a little simpler. How about? 
(she plays Frere Jacque and they do the roundel) 
NELLA: Good. Very good. Now let's have a little fun with it. 
(she plays it with minor variations, and Picard's eyes pop) 
NELLA: You try it. Improvise around the melody. Anything you want. 
(he does) 
NELLA: That's wonderful. Keep going. It's so good. 
(they play it though) 
NELLA: You're definitely better than you think.
Village Idiot.

drumsound
zen recordist
Posts: 6563
Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:30 pm
Location: Bloomington IL
Contact:

Re: 8 Different dynamic mics as overheads

Post by drumsound » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:41 pm

Nick Sevilla wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:36 pm
drumsound wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:12 pm
I'm a hack

In all seriousness, even cats like Vinnie (one of the greatest EVER) there will always be subtle differences. I could have been more scientific and I can play the tune in my sleep and be pretty damn consistent, but I wanted to have a single performance. I also wanted to be a little time efficient, which would not have happened with 8 takes and measuring tape.
LOL, not trying to demean you at all.

If you have ever recorded a sample library, you can see how nuts it can get.
I can't imagine that its fun session...

drumsound
zen recordist
Posts: 6563
Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:30 pm
Location: Bloomington IL
Contact:

Re: 8 Different dynamic mics as overheads

Post by drumsound » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:44 pm

floid wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:01 pm
PICARD: That is remarkable. Why don't you play something? 
NELLA: You start and I'll jump in. 
PICARD: What shall we play? 
NELLA: What were you working on before I came in? 
PICARD: Bach, the third Brandenburg. 
NELLA: Perfect. Go ahead. 
(Picard starts, but gets lost when she joins in) 
PICARD: I'm sorry. 
NELLA: It's all right. You're not used to playing with anyone, are you? 
PICARD: Just the computer. 
NELLA: I may not be as precise as a computer, but I think you'll enjoy it more. Why don't we start with something a little simpler. How about? 
(she plays Frere Jacque and they do the roundel) 
NELLA: Good. Very good. Now let's have a little fun with it. 
(she plays it with minor variations, and Picard's eyes pop) 
NELLA: You try it. Improvise around the melody. Anything you want. 
(he does) 
NELLA: That's wonderful. Keep going. It's so good. 
(they play it though) 
NELLA: You're definitely better than you think.
Even in the future, making live music with other players is still the most satisfying. Audience not required.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 20 guests