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Re: Let's talk guitar amp recording

Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:56 pm

If you are, I am also Satan...I haven't mic'd an amp in years. For me the workflow is just a million times easier with amp sims. I can sit in the sweet spot and adjust the tone in context, no headphones, no killing my ears.

If you'd have told me this 10 years ago I'd have said you were crazy, but here we are.

I mainly use the Scuffham S-gear, and I like the Mercuriall Reaxis and their Marshall as well. You can get some nice shoegazey tones out of the Reaxis.

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Re: Let's talk guitar amp recording

Post by ashcat_lt » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:40 pm

MoreSpaceEcho wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:56 pm
...no killing my ears.
An amp sim is no excuse. ;) It's still true that if you really want it to sound like it was loud - with all of the sustain and feedback that entails - then it actually has to be loud in real SPL at the guitar. I very often will run a dedicated output for the guitar after the sim to a powered PA speaker and crank it way up. If your reason for using a guitar sim is to record without waking the baby, this obviously isn't viable. I have a trick for that which involves a surface transducer stuck on the body of the guitar, but I'd rather it just be fucking loud if I can get away with it.

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Re: Let's talk guitar amp recording

Post by kslight » Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:15 pm

ashcat_lt wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:40 pm
MoreSpaceEcho wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:56 pm
...no killing my ears.
An amp sim is no excuse. ;) It's still true that if you really want it to sound like it was loud - with all of the sustain and feedback that entails - then it actually has to be loud in real SPL at the guitar. I very often will run a dedicated output for the guitar after the sim to a powered PA speaker and crank it way up. If your reason for using a guitar sim is to record without waking the baby, this obviously isn't viable. I have a trick for that which involves a surface transducer stuck on the body of the guitar, but I'd rather it just be fucking loud if I can get away with it.
A little bit different than what you’re talking about but I’ve also got a surface transducer which I’ve stuck on acoustic guitar. I would take a clip on pickup and run that into one of those amp plug type devices, then run that into the surface transducer..

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Re: Let's talk guitar amp recording

Post by kslight » Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:17 pm

MoreSpaceEcho wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:56 pm
If you are, I am also Satan...I haven't mic'd an amp in years. For me the workflow is just a million times easier with amp sims. I can sit in the sweet spot and adjust the tone in context, no headphones, no killing my ears.

If you'd have told me this 10 years ago I'd have said you were crazy, but here we are.

I mainly use the Scuffham S-gear, and I like the Mercuriall Reaxis and their Marshall as well. You can get some nice shoegazey tones out of the Reaxis.
I’ve just never really liked being in the same room as a full on guitar amp, especially my own. Even when I’ve rehearsed with a band I would just put my amp off in another room.

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Re: Let's talk guitar amp recording

Post by vvv » Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:22 am

Well, I must say, that's a different head.

I mean, part of my fun is bleeding ear drums.

My own included.

Plus, then I ain' need no steenking surface transducer* on the guitar - do love playing the interaction between the axe and the amp.



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Re: Let's talk guitar amp recording

Post by Recycled_Brains » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:00 am

vvv wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:22 am
love playing the interaction between the axe and the amp
So important.
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Re: Let's talk guitar amp recording

Post by markjazzbassist » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:35 am

observation: guitarists recording through an amp is considered sacred, and most will avoid DI at all costs. bass DI is standard in most studios and stages.

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Re: Let's talk guitar amp recording

Post by A.David.MacKinnon » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:47 am

markjazzbassist wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:35 am
observation: guitarists recording through an amp is considered sacred, and most will avoid DI at all costs. bass DI is standard in most studios and stages.
Except at my place. DI bass is a safety only and is thrown away 99% of the time. I'll take a good bass amp any day.

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Re: Let's talk guitar amp recording

Post by markjazzbassist » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:25 pm

A.David.MacKinnon wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:47 am
markjazzbassist wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:35 am
observation: guitarists recording through an amp is considered sacred, and most will avoid DI at all costs. bass DI is standard in most studios and stages.
Except at my place. DI bass is a safety only and is thrown away 99% of the time. I'll take a good bass amp any day.
i was thinking of you when i wrote "most" :D i'm well versed with your opinion on DI bass. And for the record there is no judgement in my statement, just a simple observation.

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Re: Let's talk guitar amp recording

Post by losthighway » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:01 pm

I've maybe only once taken a DI of a guitar and then reamped it.

I think if I knew that could produce satisfactory results consistently it could be a practical solution in a crowded session. Somehow this isn't something I experiment with, maybe because I record so many 3 and 4 piece rock bands, I find somewhere to put the amp, or DI the bass first.

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Re: Let's talk guitar amp recording

Post by drumsound » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:50 pm

Recycled_Brains wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:27 am
drumsound wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:54 pm
Who makes a good (not buzz induciong or tone sucking) A/B?
https://www.nerdknuckleeffects.com/list ... p-splitter
Thanks! Might get one of those very soon.
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Haven't used it for any records yet, but I've been loving Native Instruments' Guitar Rig just to mess around with.

Of course there's some "analog guilt" going on here, but it sounds so good and it's so flexible! Would it be so bad to record DI guitars, put them through Guitar Rig, then Re-amp for that speaker+air sound?? Am I Satan?!
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Re: Let's talk guitar amp recording

Post by roscoenyc » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:26 am

I love using 2 amps.
Getting to them doesn't have to be hard, almost any pedal with 2 outs will do.
I also like how 2 different amps respond sorta randomly to your pedalboard.

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